• hector@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    On the contrary, the universe, the state of matter, the mechanisms of astro physics, are the subjects most deserving of being skeptical of experts claiming to know things they have no way of knowing. Now you may be referring to some humble scientists, but the “exerts” absolutely do claim to know everything.

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      You dont have a good understanding of what science is. No scientist claims to know what charge is, what causes it, nor what dark matter is or dark energy.

      Scientists say what they can say with reasonable certainty. If they state something, you can research why they state it, and find sound reasoning and experiment that supports it.

      If you dont, you can disprove it, and then now you’re a scientist.

      Just because you dont know a thing, doesn’t mean others cant know.

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I’d also like to interject that physics deals with models of how the world works, i.e. physicists make predictions about what would happen in specific scenarios. That has nothing to do with knowing what goes on underneath, because we can’t know that.

        Consider quantum physics. It might be that the universe is indeed a wave and that’s just how things are. But it could also be possible that we’re living our entire lives in a simulation, whoever hosts the simulation is having a tea party and giggling at us silly being on how we’re confused by our observations. You can’t really tell these two apart, experimentally, since they would have the same outcome. So physics can’t really tell about what things are, just how they behave in certain situations. That’s why i think of physics as models, not theory (because “theory” carries a starker claim to absolute truth to me).

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          Why does “theory” carry starker claim absolute truth to you?

          Theory, theoretical, these are not claims to absolute truth. Rules maybe, but then id say you’re more correct that they’d be rules of a model.

          Relativity is a theory. Its in the name. You might not like it, but it is definitely a theory, and referred to as such by all of science. Maybe you call it model of special relativity, but you’d be the exception. However it would not be incorrect to refer to it as a model, either.

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      Come on Hector, just go back explaining everything with baby Jesus back in your room and stop making an ass of yourself in public.

        • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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          23 hours ago

          And yet that’s how you started this thread. Any chance you’ll be self aware enough to take your own feedback?