• krimson@lemmy.world
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    Well ofcourse its more fun when you can finally compete in the top 5 again.

    I think the overtake yoyo-ing that lasts 2 minutes is pretty boring tbh. Because after that you see Mercedes take off to the horizon anyway. New rules changed nothing except for causing chaos. Team dominance is still here.

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      I fear a spec series is the only way to stop team dominance. It’s only been 1.5 races. I suspect even the yo-yo racing will stop as teams figure out how to optimise energy deployment. Then it’ll just be the same F1 we’ve had for years of qualifying then a parade only interrupted by idiotic Ferrari strategy.

      Except qualifying will be less interesting because they can’t even go all out for a single lap to get the best time. They have to lift in corners to recharge.

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      Yoyo is such a bullshit term. Better drivers are better at strategicly deploying energy and are more successful at holding off competitors. It’s a huge improvements over processional raced of previous rule cycles.

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        Better drivers are better at strategicly deploying energy

        The car behind gets an extra 0.5 MJ of battery recharge per lap, plus the team is the one that decides the battery usage mappings. Driver skill is far less important this year.

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          Driver skill is far less important this year.

          Guaranteed DRS passes required so much special skill. Sure, sure.

          Leclerc has the same car, deployment programming, etc. as Hamilton but Leclerc got past Hamilton and hold him off (before the pit stop). It was a great battle between these two and the one who managed the situation better came out ahead. That’s racing.

          Ever since the very first F1 race, drivers relied on good cars. That a part of the overall package is engineering by the teams is nothing new. In fact, if you dislike that aspect, maybe F1 isn’t for you.

          There are plenty of spec / BoP’ed series around the world. I follow WEC and DTM, for example. Many people rave about the racing in IMSA’s Mazda MX-5 Cup which streams for free on YouTube and IMSA.TV.

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            Guaranteed DRS passes required so much special skill. Sure, sure.

            I don’t know if you are aware that this regulation has the same shit, only much worse. Drivers 1 second behind have extra energy deployment+recharge over the whole lap. This IMO generates a greater speed delta with respect to DRS, which is why you see the constant position swapping.

            You still have a DRS-like system, it simply became electrical instead of aerodynamic, which makes it harder to spot.

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              only much worse.

              Except it’s much better, not much worse. DRS led to guaranteed passes (unless there was a much worse car behind, then to a guaranteed DRS train). The current rules lead to wheel on wheel action.

              If you don’t like it, again: Watch something different. Those series exist already, I gave a couple of examples. Making F1 into yet another one of those would make little sense. Just be careful not to follow IndyCar or Super Formula because both have push-to-pass.

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                If you don’t like it, again: Watch something different

                It feels like you are insisting that F1 should be free of criticism? That’s literally all I’m doing, agreeing that those overtakes are simply yoyo due to the car behind being given a massive advantage, and that driver skill is less important now.

                As a sport, I think F1 sucks, but as a spectatle is somewhat great. As an engineering competition is very amazing

                EDIT: gotta admit that Ferrari battle was pretty fun to watch, made me dislike the regulation a lot less.

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                  It feels like you are insisting that F1 should be free of criticism?

                  Criticism is fine, I do it myself plenty. You naysayers want to turn F1 into something it never was.

                  As a sport, I think F1 sucks

                  Again: Watch something else. Nobody’s forcing you to watch something you hate.