I recently saw this news on the technology community https://lemmy.world/post/44224445 and got very disappointed with the way things are going with this browser.
I started using it to do my part against the chromium monopoly, but Mozilla is making too many bad decisions in my opinion.
I’ve heard about forks like Librewolf and Waterfox.
Which alternatives would you recommend? Do you use any of them? What are your thoughts on them?
A browser fork is generally less secure, because they’re slower to get security updates. Firefox gives you the option to remove all the AI and that’s a better approach.
Alternatively you could switch to Firefox ESR, which is basically just better in every way.
Librewolf, Librewolf all the way. It’s a bit heavy-duty with the privacy, but that can be toned down in settings.
seamonkey but it’s not compatible with a lot of websites these days sadly. hopefully they’ll catch up soon.
It’s running Goanna. Any issues should be brought up either on their forum, the UXP forum, or the Pale Moon forum.
I don’t believe that is the case. I believe they have their own fork of Gecko that they maintain here.
I use librewolf
I use Zen on desktop, Fennec on Android. I also tried Librewolf/ Ironfox combo.
Waterfox on Mobile has been working well for me so far.
- Computer: Librewolf + Helium
- Mobile: Ironfox + Cromite
It all depends on your threat model. Overall, I don’t recommend any browser based on the Mozilla engine; unfortunately, Chromium-based versions are way ahead when it comes to security. A good option for PC use is to isolate browsers using virtual machines, depending on the case
The main security property for any browser is between the chair and desk.
At the moment I just stick with firefox, as long as I can disable all the ai and telemetry bs. However in a few years Ladybird could be an alternative. They’re developing a whole new browser including the engine from scratch. Looks promising to me.
Waterfox is a great all-around platform for desktop and mobile.
On Linux, I use Waterfox. On Android, I use Fennec. Both much lighter than Firefox, and Waterfox specifically doesn’t need to be installed on Linux (my biggest concern in Linux - most is installed to the system), and the dev seems to be slowly separating Waterfox from the Firefox base, instead of keeping it as a stripped down Firefox. On the privacy side of things, not knowledgeable enough myself to audit them, but haven’t seen any scandals on either yet.
I just switched to Librewolf from Firefox, would you recommend moving to Waterfox instead ?
Haven’t tested LibreWolf so can’t compare them
I’ve been using Waterfox for a year or so, after I got tired of the broken update process for Librewolf on MacOS. No regrets.
LibreWolf my beloved browser
It’s great. The only thing stopping my from using it full time is that no Firefox-based browsers work with the web office editor within my NextCloud instance.








