Disclaimer: Fuck the rich and please consider reading 1 paragraph before you go to comments to explain how I am a bootlicker. Thank you ٩(•͈ ꇴ •͈)و ̑̑❀

For context, I generally report all calls to violence, no matter who the “victim” is, whether they are a public figure or an anonymous user. I didn’t even register that the person I was “defending” was rich—I’m just aware that calls to violence are against most instances’ terms of service (due to legal threats). Genuinely sorry seahorse! I wish you just had something in your instance sidebar or even spoke to me instead of jumping to ban and “lib” insults!

Unverifiable information you will have to take my word for (per community rules)

Apologized to seahorse and got:

My own personal curiosities only adjacently related

Correct me if I’m wrong, isn’t this a bit of an abuse of federation? This is the same admin that pulled the move with the doxxing of Nick Fuentes. By banning users for reporting content that may violate our local instance rules, seahorse is making our local instances harder to moderate for our admins. (Honestly I respect the commitment to the running a very open and uncensored instance, but until Lemmy has the option to only report to local admins versus local & federated authorities, this may not be the best strategy?)

Anyway, this is pretty interesting. I’m honestly not too pressed about this (mostly I will miss !theonion@midwest.social) and curious what yall think. :)

  • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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    20 days ago

    The “honest reason” is that the moderator in question disagrees with OP.

    The moderator believes that the wealthy should be punished corporally for the catastrophic harm they have inflicted upon humanity for generations through their parasitism and believes that it is morally right to champion such punishment.

    OP has demonstrated the position that calling for this punishment is morally wrong.

    This was an impasse.

    The moderator decided that opinions such as OP’s are not welcome there, and therefore chose to remove OP.

    We’re not going to find detached impassive professionalism or even-handedness here, no matter how hard we dig for it. It’s just politically motivated suppression of opposed opinions through and through.

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      I get that and I agree that that could be the admin’s intent. Admins can have opinions and operate their server based on them. What reflects poorly on this admin is how they handle it immaturely in a hexbearish fashion, when the same opinion can be expressed a lot more clearly.

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        beyond the immaturity, what’s much more confusing to me is why there is a need to moralize the report button, both from the admin and the comments here.

        when i click “report” it’s never to try to do censorship or push an agenda or something. it’s genuinely a “hey i found this that either violates your rules or might get you in legal trouble if it happens a lot, address it if you want but in the end it’s totally your call.” i personally think that’s the appropriate use of the feature? there’s a reason the icon is a flag, not a middle finger haha

        but i guess i am learning other people are really into using reports as a “personal grievances” tool or something, and they are projecting that understanding of the tool back on to me.

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      19 days ago

      OP has demonstrated the position that calling for this punishment is morally wrong.

      False. If you reread my post (or read it for the first time, perhaps) you will find three key statements:

      • I generally report all calls to violence, no matter who the “victim” is.
      • I didn’t even register that the person I was “defending” was rich.
      • I have no interest in protecting the rich—just keeping the instances I know and love up and running.

      Depending on an instance’s local government situation, instance admins can be held liable by law for hosting certain content, and therefore many instances have rules against calls to violence. I don’t even agree it’s a morally good or optimal system, it’s just how it is.

      Out of this understanding, along with reporting the much more common slurs, racism, sexism, etc. I occasionally also report calls to violence. This is not out of any political interest; I am just helping admins keep house.

      Anyway, thank you for your suuuuuper good-faith reading of my post, and I trust you’ll do the same for this comment. /s

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        19 days ago

        You might want to look up the definition of corporal punishment, because you are absolutely opposing corporal punishment when you report a post that advocates violence as punishment.

        Being opposed to corporal punishment by default is not a bad thing.

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          goodness :( please read the post. admins. can get. in legal. trouble. for. calls. to. violence.

          the report is just me giving them the heads up that the content exists, nothing more, not me trying to censor others, not some political statement, and certainly not a moral one.

          admins are free to ignore my reports. in fact, i hope they do, and perhaps let me know when and where they are not necessary.

          i have read your post. PLEASE read mine. 😭

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            19 days ago

            Sorry I couldn’t keep up with what seems like a constantly changing basis for reporting.