The Kamala campaign was very careful to NOT say that the economy was doing great. It was Biden who essentially had this as his campaign strategy. I wonder why this piece of misinformation is so persistent on this platform. It is always mentioned by people without reference to a source.
Sorry for the super slow response. Just got saw ur link.
I believe we have an extraordinary opportunity to make our middle class the engine of America’s prosperity, to build a stronger economy where everyone, everywhere has a chance to pursue their dreams an aspirations, and to ensure that the United States of America continues to out-innovate and out-compete the world,” said Harris
Imo, this is a silly and ridiculous thing to say. The economy is absolute shit, it’s not strong it’s worse than it’s ever been. She should’ve said, “to fix this absolutely broken, failed system that serves only the very wealthy” or something like that.
Also, I said Dems - I never even specified Harris. I had literal conversations with libs on Lemmy downvoting me for saying the economy was shit despite inflation being down and unemployment supposedly being low like I was going against the accepted talking point. The metrics economists use seem purposefully irrelevant,;most Americans don’t really give a shit about those things. This is how you have most Americans cheering for a CEO’s murderer.
I mean, really, a “strong economy”? What a joke at best, but what a backhanded insult to anyone struggling in the working class at worst.
That said, happy holidays!! We’ll figure this out together!
Wow, that’s some special nitpicking, and hyperbole. Saying that something should become stronger does not imply that it is currently strong. For instance, I think that you could build a stronger argument. See what I did there?
As for the statement that the economy is worse than it has ever been, I guess the Great Depression would like to have a word with you (among many other times).
C’mon dude, the great depression? I’m obviously talking about our lifetimes. Was that a joke? Are you over 100 (and using Lemmy! wow)? More relevant to our chat, do you think the average dumbass American voter compares their life to people living 100 years ago or smth?
Sure, I’m totally the one nitpicking here.
Ok, let’s take a step back. I said Dems messaging on the economy sucked. Then, you shilled for brought up Harris and said her messaging was fine or maybe great - it obviously wasn’t since she lost and most voters cited the economy and/or inflation as their biggest concern (key data we should maybe consider here). You then linked an article quoting her. Let me know if I missed what you wanted me to see. Are you trying to say you believe that most Americans would’ve been swayed, or convinced she would really fix the economy?
We should try to understand the people we’re talking to in a conversation. It’s not productive to converse if you misunderstand or misrepresent their statements. So far this doesn’t seem very productive
You’ll note that’s very relevant here where what economists mean when they say economy (inflation rate/unemployment) is very different from what most working class Americans mean when they use the word (inflation impact/social mobility/monthly budget). Let me know if that’s not clear. It’s similar to how scientists use theory very differently to most laymen.
The Kamala campaign was very careful to NOT say that the economy was doing great. It was Biden who essentially had this as his campaign strategy. I wonder why this piece of misinformation is so persistent on this platform. It is always mentioned by people without reference to a source.
Let me add a reference to break this spell: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/25/harris-opportunity-economic-plan-middle-class
Sorry for the super slow response. Just got saw ur link.
Imo, this is a silly and ridiculous thing to say. The economy is absolute shit, it’s not strong it’s worse than it’s ever been. She should’ve said, “to fix this absolutely broken, failed system that serves only the very wealthy” or something like that.
Also, I said Dems - I never even specified Harris. I had literal conversations with libs on Lemmy downvoting me for saying the economy was shit despite inflation being down and unemployment supposedly being low like I was going against the accepted talking point. The metrics economists use seem purposefully irrelevant,;most Americans don’t really give a shit about those things. This is how you have most Americans cheering for a CEO’s murderer.
I mean, really, a “strong economy”? What a joke at best, but what a backhanded insult to anyone struggling in the working class at worst.
That said, happy holidays!! We’ll figure this out together!
Wow, that’s some special nitpicking, and hyperbole. Saying that something should become stronger does not imply that it is currently strong. For instance, I think that you could build a stronger argument. See what I did there?
As for the statement that the economy is worse than it has ever been, I guess the Great Depression would like to have a word with you (among many other times).
C’mon dude, the great depression? I’m obviously talking about our lifetimes. Was that a joke? Are you over 100 (and using Lemmy! wow)? More relevant to our chat, do you think the average dumbass American voter compares their life to people living 100 years ago or smth?
Sure, I’m totally the one nitpicking here.
Ok, let’s take a step back. I said Dems messaging on the economy sucked. Then, you
shilled forbrought up Harris and said her messaging was fine or maybe great - it obviously wasn’t since she lost and most voters cited the economy and/or inflation as their biggest concern (key data we should maybe consider here). You then linked an article quoting her. Let me know if I missed what you wanted me to see. Are you trying to say you believe that most Americans would’ve been swayed, or convinced she would really fix the economy?We should try to understand the people we’re talking to in a conversation. It’s not productive to converse if you misunderstand or misrepresent their statements. So far this doesn’t seem very productive
You’ll note that’s very relevant here where what economists mean when they say economy (inflation rate/unemployment) is very different from what most working class Americans mean when they use the word (inflation impact/social mobility/monthly budget). Let me know if that’s not clear. It’s similar to how scientists use theory very differently to most laymen.