• Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    We need this so fucking bad. As a species, not just America or the wealthy nations only. Everyone.

    And this should just be a transitionary period down to a 24 or less hour work week. Fuck slaving away at shit jobs just to make billionaires.

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      Yea, slaving away should be purely optional. If you love your job or you love money or you want to keep yourself distracted AND make money at the same time, by all means, knock yourself out and work 60 hour weeks.

      It’s a failure of the system if people have to work full time to scrape by with the very bare necessities and live in poverty, with all the nasties that come with it. America coined the term “working poor” (obligatory meme so we’re on the same page)

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        8 months ago

        Full Employment and Zero Protests go hand-in-hand.

        As soon as unemployment figures start climbing (2008, 2014, 2016, COVID-2020) people hit the streets and cops start working a lot of extra overtime.

        Imagine if people had a whole third weekend day to themselves. Imagine what they could spend their time doing that wasn’t entirely predicated on enriching their bosses?

  • Nobody@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Bernie: Here’s a bill that will help literally everyone. People waste less of their lives at work, and productivity goes up massively for the corporate overlords. There is no downside here for anyone.

    Everyone: Shut up, hippy.

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      8 months ago

      Unfortunately that’s a fairly naive take that fails to consider how most people work in the US- hourly employees would be fucked by this.

      Retail, service, anyone whose not already working 9-5 office jobs; the reality is that they won’t loose pay, but they will loose hours. And you can bet your ass that companies won’t pay more to make up for it.

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        8 months ago

        they lose hours but the hourly pay goes up, just like everybody else, no? I haven’t read the bill but I would be surprised if that’s not in there.

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          First off, it needs to be noted that the only mechanism to do that on so large a scale is to increase the minimum wage.

          Which is how they did it in ‘38 when the work week went to 44, and in ‘40 when it when to what it is today.

          The problem is that company are absolutely going to pass that off to customers (aka, the workers… ultimately.) and so really all you’ve done, effectively, is put far more people onto minimum wage.

          Anyone who was above that mimimim? Gets the shaft.

          And people who now are on minimum? Working two jobs to pay for everything (like most people in the bottom quarter are already doing anyhow,) so they don’t really see reduced hours anyway.

          It’s well meaning and it’d be nice, but it needs to be done differently. Unions are strong now. Stronger than they have been since I’ve been working. Join a union. Make the change yourself; eventually it’ll get normalized without the above problems. (Also, better wages, healthcare, workplace safety and everything else Unions get you.)(don’t tell my boss’s boss that. He’s still buthurt from negotiating a new contract.)

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            8 months ago

            The problem is that company are absolutely going to pass that off to customers (aka, the workers… ultimately.)

            News flash, they’re going to be raising prices regardless.

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              8 months ago

              And they won’t tack that on, too, anyhow?

              Chances are they’ll pass on the costs, increase the price, anyhow, shrink products, and raise prices even more, and then blame the last three on the first.

              Exactly like they’ve been doing.

  • manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    when workers won the 40 hour week, the 8 hour day, there were basically no restrictions on the time workers could be required to work.

    a 32 hour week is a 6 hour day.

    This is weak.