• tomsh@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I love it, I like it like my new contract they send me with new prices for electricity (44% up)

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      3 days ago

      Sounds off, because renewbles are typically cheaper than the alternatives.
      Any chance you got a ‘fossil only’ contract?

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        3 days ago

        It sounds strange, but that’s how it is, and it’s Ökostrom. Luckily, I can change my provider when they raise the price, so it won’t increase that much for me, but it will still go up, and I’m not the only one in my area because some friends of mine received the same ‘greeting.’ (To those who give dislikes, that won’t change the facts no matter how much you would like it to.)

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        3 days ago

        renewbles are typically cheaper than the alternatives

        But firms will charge market rate regardless of the source of energy. This is a problem we have in Texas under ERCOT.

        Green power can come in at such high rates that local power is practically free. But because the energy is bundled and auctioned with coal and gas across the grid at large, and because electricity is priced at the maximum auction rate, a shortage in one municipality that’s filled with high priced fossil fuel power raises the retail price of energy into the hundreds or even thousands of dollars a MWh.

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          3 days ago

          I wonder how long it takes to bundle renawables only with batteries and sell that without subsidising fossil based electric energy.
          May the fossil burners go bankrupt rather sooner than later as it’s a more reliable way to get them out of the mix than regulation is.

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            bundle renawables only with batteries and sell that

            Significantly less efficient than a green grid. Roof solar isn’t going to practically compete with industrial scale solar or wind, much less state subsidized gas.

            May the fossil burners go bankrupt rather sooner than later

            The demand for energy is only increasing. I don’t think anyone is going to go bankrupt selling electricity into this market.

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        why would market electricity prices have any relation to what you pay on your power bill? turns out that companies will charge whatever they know they can, regardless of the cost of acquiring something to sell, should the cost of something be more than they know they can sell it for, they just won’t sell it.

        The idea that market prices influence what you pay for something is basically one of the main lies of supply side economics.

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      3 days ago

      Are you sure its the actual cost of the electricity or the fact that many other costs are often bundled into your bill?

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        Obviously, you don’t live in Germany or the EU, and it’s questionable whether you’ve ever paid a single bill. Because the electricity bill is always separate from other bills and is a special contract.

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          3 days ago

          lol. well I dont live in the EU thats true. seems like you’re the misinformed one. its pretty common for ‘electricity usage’ and ‘delivery’ to be separated. hence my question. dont worry if you struggle understanding your bill we can help if you want.