• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Hard disagree, censorship is not welcome in a free society. I dislike a number of those sites and haven’t heard of most of the rest, but I wouldn’t ban a single one.

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      5 days ago

      Good luck dealing with the current far-right inthe government in the US and soon in the EU countries though

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        5 days ago

        Censoring the far-right doesn’t make it go away. It just pushes it underground where it becomes even more radical outside of the moderating influence of the mainstream.

        The solution is not censorship, but to understand what is causing the rise in right wing radicalism and address the root cause.

        That root cause is the total loss of faith institutions coupled with economic insecurity felt by the working class. When people are scared and angry, they will turn to those who give them simple solutions and an easy scapegoat. It’s a tale as old as time.

        You can try and censor all you want, it won’t ultimately make a difference.

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          5 days ago

          Censoring the far-right doesn’t make it go away. It just pushes it underground where it becomes even more radical outside of the moderating influence of the mainstream.

          I beg to differ. The situation was MUCH better in this regard in Western Europe 15-20 years ago when being openly far-right would get you socially ostracized for the most part, and media didn’t routinely bring far-right mouthpieces on national TV.

          That root cause is the total loss of faith institutions coupled with economic insecurity felt by the working class

          I do agree with that though, that’s why I’m a commie who wants economic security for everyone (i.e. guaranteed employment and housing) and strong and trustworthy institutions (such as powerful, free and public healthcare and education and pensions, and the end of austerity)

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            4 days ago

            I beg to differ. The situation was MUCH better in this regard in Western Europe 15-20 years ago when being openly far-right would get you socially ostracized for the most part, and media didn’t routinely bring far-right mouthpieces on national TV.

            the question we need to ask is why was being right-wing socially unacceptable back then?

            why is it OK for a politician like Trump to say “immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country” today whereas just 20 years ago that would immediately end a political career?

            it’s not because we had more censorship.

            the why is what we need to address. without economic security and legitimate institutions, we are lost.

            censorship is not the solution and in fact it’s actively harmful. any mechanisms we create for a government to start censoring will inevitably be taken over by fascists when they come to power. and I think we only got a few years left at best