It´s surprising to hear that
This is so dumb…
That’s got a nice ring to it. You should put that on your tombstone when you say something that pisses off the wrong person.
Speech may be protected, but what you say still has consequences, as it can bring others to action, either for or against you.
OP is a troll, obviously working on the fact that the .world admins and mods are explicitly allowing clowns like this to turn their instance to shit.
It doesn’t mean fredom from consequences you racist bastard.
It doesn’t mean fredom from consequences you racist bastard.
What makes OP a racist bastard?
Only people I see trying to make this point are ones trying to hand wave shitty behaviour.
Also I’m free to say it.
You’d be more accurate if you just called them a conspiracy theory wacko
I get what you are saying, and I agree that it is accurate.
Doesn’t quite have the same pop though.
Nice, so you decided to use hate speech against him
No, it is an accusation. Hate speech would be calling him names based of ethnicity or some other quality they cannot change.
Way to show your lack of understanding.
Technically you have no influence on being a bastard
And the meaning has also shifted away from your parents not being wed when you are born.
I know, I know
That doesn’t make sense. If someone at a Nazi rally shouted “actually Jews are alright” and got arrested for it, would you say that’s compatible with free speech? Because while they might have experienced consequences, “free speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences”, so since they were able to say what they intended to they had free speech?
Nowhere in any writings about free speech does it mention that you are free from consequences.
Edit: american free spech has limits, it really only protects you when criticizing the government. As with most governments that enshrined free speech.
Also thats a hell of a whataboutism.
american free spech has limits, it really only protects you when criticizing the government
“Free speech only when talking about the government” is very different from “free speech”.
Yeah, and people point to that when they talk about free speech and miss the point where they never said you are completely free of consequences.
Try again. Seriously, you sound like a high school student who clued in half way through the class.
they never said you are completely free of consequences
Who are “they”?
Germans have freedom of opinion. Much better, IMHO.
Yes, we have freedom of opinion but you have to keep your mouth shut 🤐
Nope, people just ain’t forced to accept your bullshit. Your rights only end where the rights of others begin, that’s how a peaceful society works.
If you don’t understand this simple concept that’s a you problem.
A better truism by someone actually wise is that there is no such thing as free speech and never will be.
There is only protected speech, unprotected speech, and speech nobody gives a fuck about. And what speech is protected or not depends on context.
No, it doesn’t you fucking muppet:
“Freedom of speech is the right to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, by any means.”
It does not include hate speech nor it includes freedom to lie.
Tell me you’re a idiot without telling me.
Lemmy users: I’m going to pretend I didn’t hear that
I find the more people get banned for their rants the more it reinforces those beliefs and drives them to places that further solidifies their nich believe. In a true speach world people will correct them and give feedback.
Pretty sure getting banned from a community is feedback. I have found that the people who scream “free speach” don’t want feed back, they want to hate and they want to hurt others.
Oh gosh no one wants that feedback.
i believe you overestimate people. IMO, more often than not hatespeech is caused by stupidity not malicious intent.
and banning people is not a proper feedback. If you want to give proper feedback, you should at least try to explain why they’re wrong.
It’s feedback that says: What you have said is unacceptable here and you have been shown the door because of your actions as we will not tolerate those actions.
it’s not an adequate feedback, until proven that the person you’re banning is a troll is what i’m saying. By banning people with no malintent, you’re segregating the community, up to the point of creating an echo chamber with “us or them” mentality on both sides
This is why don’t feed the trolls was a popular refrain. Those people want a response, and banning is a response. It’s a tough line for moderation though, and why shadow banning exists.
