I cannot repost what Flying Squid was posting here, because it involved highly disturbing and dangerous content, including:
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Graphic content, harassment, self-harm, and suicidal ideation, which I reported immediately.
While this behavior is shocking, it’s not completely out of left field, as members of this community and platform will already be familiar with their behavior. Flying Squid has long been regarded as one of the least productive and most problematic mods on all of Lemmy, often picking fights and abusing their mod privileges. I view this change as a positive step for Squid, .world, and Lemmy as a whole.
If this was in the thread about unsettling facts he was explaining his pain condition which actually is referred to a suicide disease. Given the outrage some people have against him I imagine some people saw the opportunity to harass him about it.
Im on Lemmy far more than I’d like to admit. Im always so confused when I see Squid hate. Ive never seen him say anything that’s not equal to what the other person is saying.
I can’t even see this “episode”.
I think there are people that take it waaaay too seriously when they see someone else is a mod. Mods are just you and me, but they have a more active role in whatever community. You can be a mod anytime you’d like. Simply create a community and voila! You are now a hated person.
Ive been banned from multiple places and couldn’t care any less about who banned me, or who the mods are. Grow up and chill out.
Anywhoo that’s my 2 crumbs. Enjoy the rest of your weekend everyone!
Im on Lemmy far more than I’d like to admit.
My friend, I’m with you. And I actually get called troll and a bot, because “no one could be on Lemmy that much!!” Um what? I get accused of being a bot and I don’t think I’m even on a lot. lol
Ive been banned from multiple places and couldn’t care any less about who banned me, or who the mods are. Grow up and chill out.
100 percent this.
Unless someone is posting something illegal, advocating violence/threats, or is doxxing, I think ANY and ALL bans are lame and come from power-hungry losers.
What is the point of this post, when there’s no actual details as to what was posted? The key images seem to have been deleted off server, and without that it’s extremely difficult to pick up the context.
The modlog shows the conversation. The person in question seems to have a breakdown and offers to commit suicide on stream for someone who they claim want them dead.
Because of the content of the offending material it’s really hard to put the full info in a post without breaking terms of service. You are welcome to make your own post if you feel you can do better! :)
No, I have no idea what the context is. Hence my comment, because this is all drama without any info.
Looked up the modlogs. What the actual fuck.
That said, this whole episode and the comment deletions with the “we can’t share this” reasons kinda show how Lemmy is better than Reddit in that modlogs are public.
I find it great that mods can’t outright delete stuff, only hide it. It lets them do the job of cleaning up convos of spam and trolls without the unchecked power aspect to it.
Am I crazy or is the modlog missing heaps?
I control-f for the ‘I to complain?’ part of the post above and don’t see anything. Just trying to follow the argument is confusing as hell? It sounds like someone doxxed FS, and he got suicidal over it? I hope gets some help if he’s seriously feeling like that.
Yeah, admins can purge stuff from the mod log. That comment seems to be completely gone.
that comment specifically was a link to a graphic image, so yes the admins certainly purged that. cc @Deceptichum@quokk.au
Ah interesting, I’m curious as to what it was now.
i saw it XD here let me telepathy it to you bzzzzzt
Wow that’s fucked up, was the zebra consenting?
It’s not really a black or white issue.
People over at .world def purged stuff from mod log regarding me. Granted I wasn’t suicidal, so not very important, but they still purged some stuff. They definitely wanted to paint a particular narrative of me.
They say they banned me for abusive PM’s. But I haven’t seen any evidence of those PM’s or what they considered “abusive.” Even after I asked them to publish these “abusive emails” for everyone to see.
So yeah, they definitely can make up shit on their own over there.
Having said that, sounds like both people involved in this interchange need help. Why the fuck do people take shit on Lemmy so seriously?!
We all believe you, monk
🙄Some things are true whether you believe them or not.
If you ever find proof of “harassing” DM’s that I sent, please post for us all to see. Because that was the supposed reason for my banning and when I ask about it, all I get is “That’s private, we don’t share private information.”
Seems easy enough to block out the “private” part and show screencaps of what I said that would be deemed “harassing.” tho.
Face it, the reason I was banned was because people thought I was a troll because I didn’t vote for the Biden/Harris train and voted socialist. Now it’s ok to bitch about Biden/Harris. And in fact, lots do now. But 3 months ago, it was viewed differently.
Feel free to take a look: https://lemmyusa.com/post/sh.itjust.works/26969318
Still proud of what I did and what I said. And very very happy that I didn’t vote for Harris in the election. :)
And the banning did nothing, I just switched to better and less censorship-happy instances. So all good.
And people are still trying to ban me from other instances. LMAO But it didn’t work: https://sh.itjust.works/post/31017252
Thanks, friend! Proof that people are still trying as of just last week (it failed and the admins in question rightly stood up for me and refused to bow down to the witchhunt):
I know who you are, monk. Ive interacted with you before. I don’t care what you have to say, to be frank. You’re a troll and you know it.
I don’t care what you have to say, to be frank
I know. Glad you admitted it rather than imply that I was lying.
You’re a troll and you know it.
Nope. Posting things you don’t like doesn’t make me a troll. And I’m still glad I voted third-party. Funny how lots more are advocating for third-party now, huh? When I did it, I was accused of being a troll. Hmmm, my my my, how things change once the truth comes out.
I’m still here, no matter how much you all tried to censor me. Because the fediverse is awesome and celebrates diversity of thought.
And I hope that the squid guy in question, who I don’t agree with most of the time, realizes that Lemmy shouldn’t be taken so seriously. Hopefully, he steps back a bit and heals.
Thanks, friend! :)
The modlog, as far as I can tell, gets sorted in the same order as user profiles do, by default. Which is to say “here’s some recent stuff okay let’s skip over some stuff hey here’s some random stuff from two months ago that’s pretty good right? I have been drinking FYI.”
I could be wrong about this. I definitely feel like I have seen it be missing stuff even without mod purges though. Searching for the specific community or specific user / moderator you’re looking for is usually pretty reliable, as long as there aren’t pages and pages of results, then the same issue seems like it might occur.
Both of them are fucking insane. To devote this much energy to weirdos on the internet is deranged. They both need to devote their energy to better things, as evidenced by the fact that I had to press “show context” on their comment thread so many times I lost patience. I thought everyone on Lemmy was better than this. I dont care what the original cause of the disagreement was at this rate because EVERY step of the way, one of them couldve turned on do not disturb or gone to an alt account or SOMETHING. If either of you are seeing this, you can do better. Flying Squid specifically? Threatening suicide is the number one way to look immature (of every kind), especially over a stranger on the internet. Do. Better.
Edit: If someone could give a kind description of what the drama was even all about, I’d appreciate it. I can’t bear to dig through either of their histories.
And the sick thing is we have been CALLING THIS GUY OUT FOREVER. The .world admins are ABSOLUTELY partially at fault for this for letting this user have the power they have had for so fucking long. Sorry for shouting I’m upsetti. 🙃
+1 to your edit though. The content was so vile and triggering, I was not up to the task. So, fair warning to anyone who wants to further investigate a case where every party is so obviously in the wrong. Tread carefully.
we have been CALLING THIS GUY OUT FOREVER
The mods aren’t the only ones at fault either. He got so much support for this insanity. Call out his BS? Get asked for evidence. Provide text book evidence and it isn’t enough. Be clearly in the right from a PTB and downvoted 10:1. The one time he’s not technically being a PTB, but rather exhibiting symptoms of manic-depression, and people defend him saying ‘this post isn’t appropriate’ when the history makes it absolutely so. All you upvoting MFs in the past have been cheering a clearly insane person, so maybe do a personal inventory of what seems rational to you and double check reality eh?
I’d be cheering for his removal except he’s still mod of a few communities I’d like to participate in. L.W admins need to delete all his content and ban the IP address. I for one can’t wait to never see that name on Lemmy ever again and I know I’m not alone.
I’m fine with looking at this stuff. It seems FS is having a mental health episode, and this is the result. It’s not drama.
FS does have BPD if i recall. I’m no professional on BPD, but this might be related.
I honestly feel bad for him, i never hated him but it must be tiring for an entire community to hate you, while you’re already depressed; and then shit like this happens.
I hope he’s okay.
BPD as in bipolar or borderline
Edit: lol why the downvotes? Honest question 🙄
The acronym for Bipolar is BPAD, Bipolar Affective Disorder.
Borderline personality disorder
it must be tiring for an entire community to hate you
Only if you take it seriously. I’ve had entire threads/posts started just to try to get the fediverse to ban me. But sounds like Squid was taking it way too seriously. He needs help. I personally laugh it off–but then plenty accuse me of being mentally ill. So ya can never really tell.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/31017252
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I’m not celebrating, the guy is threatening suicide, and posting pictures of it. He needs to get off the Internet and seek help immediately.
I’ve messaged @lwreport@lemmy.world about it, I suggest you all do the same.
Yes (Content Warning)
Unfortunately, this type of behavior, including threats of self-harm, is not uncommon on the internet and can sometimes be used as an emotional manipulation tactic. However, discussions of suicidal ideation are very sensitive and can be harmful if not handled carefully. Let’s focus on reporting this to the moderators while remaining careful and sensitive in how we address this topic.
May I have a link to the modlog?
Filter by user, then you can search within that.
BPR
But they didn’t act in moderation but as a user so the only actual mod action here is Jordan and it’s justified to remove that comment chain.
Exactly. And while FS may have been a PTB in general, this isn’t really an example of it, it’s just sad.
edit: replied to wrong comment original conversation here
Because he’d been reported on here previously? Ok, I kind of get what you are saying, but it also feels a bit like rubbing salt in his wounds when he’s obviously having a hard time. But it’s just my sentimental opinion and I won’t say you’re wrong either lol.
you know what you changed my perspective. im gonna edit the title at least you are absolutely right i am being a little salt rubby here.
arr we’re all a bit salty sometimes :p
why is it not there anymore?
Yeah that’s a bit concerning, the modlog has been tampered with so much.
This is certainly mod/admin overreach. I’d say it could almost be its own post.
If this post was about Flying Squid banning you then I’d get the relevance to this community. Otherwise it’s just drama imo.
i disagree personally i think this post certainly falls under “bans or other sanctions from mods” as outlined in the sidebar
Who was power tripping in this example?
oops i wrote that comment in the wrong text box. copy pasting here:
your position is valid in that this is technically not an example of active power tripping. i personally think this community is more valuable as a historical resource with this kind of follow up content but i won’t say your opinion is wrong.
they still moderate the following communities
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jordanlund is still around who is like squid’s slightly less chaotic yet just as unproductive twin. i will certainly be sticking to !world@quokk.au for now.
I can second !world@quokk.au along with !usa@ponder.cat and !politics@sh.itjust.works, and !technology@lemmy.zip.
I never understood the beef with FlyingSquid. Every time I heard this hue and cry about how he was abusing his powers, I asked for details, and it turned out the details were that he sent one rude message to one user, months ago, or that he liked to argue with people. Whatever. If he’s now in a bad place I hope he gets some help. Life is fragile.
Jordan is too nice, and too much pretend-objective behind a supposedly objective set of rules, in my opinion. He tends to allow clearly toxic people and behavior, as exemplified by you-know-who, as long as they are careful not to violate any of the written rules more than twice or three times a week. There’s nothing wrong with being nice but in some positions of authority it can wind up getting abused.
Jeffw is great. To me the epitome of his style as far as I can tell was when people starting complaining about the fact check bot, and he said “Oh, you don’t like it? We’ll remove it then.” Why it was ever some kind of more complex other operation besides that, everywhere else, is why I no longer chill with lemmy.world.
I have mostly moved on from the LW communities and I would recommend that you do the same, so I care very little about all of this, just tossing in my opinion in passing.
Edit: Removed the suspect instance, replaced it with blatant shameless self-promotion.
I never understood the beef with FlyingSquid. Every time I heard this hue and cry about how he was abusing his powers, I asked for details, and it turned out the details were that he sent one rude message to one user, months ago, or that he liked to argue with people. Whatever. If he’s now in a bad place I hope he gets some help. Life is fragile.
Exactly this.
thx for sharing
his ban for “bad faith” against return2ozma was ridiculous.
And their lack of understanding their comms rules.
Or they add rules specifically to target single users then ignore it for others, like the # of posts per day rule
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ok you are almost certainly an alt of the other user blured in the screenshot. you sent me a DM saying “you’re welcome” about squid.
i hope you see this even though your account was banned: fuck off with that dude. don’t fucking harrass people. you are as much at fault here as squid.
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Okay I tried to go through the modlog and the comment screenshot that you censored is removed from the modlog?!? How the fuck in censorship that bad on this platform. I might as well use tiktok
If you read further down it is discussed why it was removed.
Removed from the mod log tho? I don’t see anywhere explaining that
Ah I see, thanks
Why don’t the Redditor stay there.
i’m saying like-
Fuck yeah 🤘
