Having so many communities concentrated in one instance is a problem
Having an architecture that locks communities to an instance is a problem. They should be distributed across the network with no notion of a home instance.
How would moderation work then?
It would be different. The end-user would have to moderate their feeds, they’d have to find the same community provided by platform hosts who align with the users moderation values, or be ok with hiding content themselves.
PieFed (the non-tankie Lemmy alternative written in Python rather than Rust) allows for that. Atm it’s fairly primitive unless you make your own instance but ultimately it democratizes the moderation process to allow the end user what they want to see or not. Like instead of “remove” or “allow” content, it can automatically be “collapsed” with an option to uncollapse it whenever someone chooses. And/or labels can be placed next to usernames - like “<2 week old account” or “has 10x more downvotes than upvotes” - except it is actually icons that are used rather than such long phrases. You can put custom icons of any type next to any individual user that you want, for any reason - e.g. to help their comments stand out as you scroll, or to remind you to be careful replying, or whatever custom reason you chose to remind yourself of.
Edit: and all that I’ve said here is already available. So I guess it’s not so primitive after all, especially when keyword filters get added (new features appear all the time - it being in Python makes its development cycle FAST!), but what I meant is that even more is planned, to further reduce the manual burden of moderation efforts. Also, the entire sidebar appears below every single post, unlike in some apps where it it quite buried behind several clicks. It’s not fully ready for the masses yet but it’s coming along nicely, and already has several features that Lemmy lacks (and vice versa unfortunately).
Edit 2: based on db0’s comment, I should mention that PieFed also has Mastodon style tags too, on top of not only communities but on top of that too there are Categories of Communities. This is getting confusing to describe so just look at this example - the hierarchy above the post shows the Categories, the tags are below it, and the YouTube link is natively embedded in between.
Yeah but it’s written in Python.
Which will lead to faster development?
Or are you saying that the code will be shittier as a result? I do wonder about that, but also if the errors can get made quickly enough and then resolved, the overall process could still end up being faster?:-P
Just joking since I’m not a fan of Python’s design choices, but I do worry that as development goes on the tech debt will pile up and will be more difficult to maintain.
Probably better than whatever batshit moderation happens right now on the tankie instances
That’s just mastodon tags
Hmmm I see your point
Then you run into problems with instance admins disagreeing over moderation
Either you have global moderation rules or communities will leave the instances with bad and inconsistent mods
if communities don’t have a home instance, how do they leave the instances with bad mods? would this mean that different communities can federate independently, as determined by community moderators?
This is a situation where I see a community leaving an instance with bad moderation.
I don’t like .world but it’s the best instance I’ve found so far
It’s called a fediverse for a reason
I don’t fully understand this.
While having one big instance is not ideal, isn’t the idea that it should be easy to move once and if the big instance becomes draconian?
I thought the whole point of the fediverse was not to get locked into a walled garden and be able to decentralize as needed, ending up with a few big players is inevitable, no?
I’ve heard it’s supposed to be ready to move, but I still haven’t figured out the new “easy” way of moving my stuff to a new instance, at least on Voyager
Seems like they didn’t get the memo that the entire point of coming here was to decentralize.
Then again /c/196 sucks so that’s a fitting instance for them. Blahaj is marginally better.
Fantastic use of that meme format
Instance wars are so fucking pathetic
You would say that coming from that dungheap at lemmy.zip!
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Nothing wrong at all, just pulling your leg in response to your post. We get on very well the l.z Admins, so it felt safe to do so as I don’t know how good @Demigodrick@lemmy.zip is at fighting. If you aren’t signed up here then that’s a great option too.
I had one 30 second fight in year 9 and won, and I’m still riding that high a good 20+ years later.
I’d say I’m pretty bloody dangerous 😎
Legit tough guy!
when i saw that announcement post i literally did a double take at my watch to make sure it wasn’t April Fool’s Day
like that’s how dumb this idea was i thought it was a joke at first
Drag saw 196 mods mentioning their plan to move instances after Ada told them not to misgender trans people. “Ideological differences”, huh? Wonder what that’s code for
You did piss off a couple of powerusers dedicated to instance wars, but the mods are working to insist that’s not what any of this is about.
In the past 15 hours drag has read a lot about why the mods did it. Apparently, they weren’t closing reports on Blahaj, so Ada actioned them, and Ada was stricter with the rules than they liked.
When Ada said neopronouns aren’t trolling, drag saw a lot of transphobic comments on 196 that the mods weren’t removing. Drag was already banned from the community at that time and couldn’t report them, so drag contacted Ada directly, and Ada removed them.
At that time, moving the community out of the instance was a “maybe”. Perhaps neopronouns were the last straw. At the time, the 196 mods were saying they didn’t agree with the removals and bans of transphobia and misgendering.
Nonsence? Nonsence?
The machine that makes the memes also checks the spells you know.
Btw does someone have some place where i can read what happened exactly?
self plug but people found this valuable: https://lemmy.cafe/post/12094663
Makes sense. The two padded rooms of Lemmy.
No way (that there is only two:-)
Good thing I’m just chilling on https://lemmy.cafe/, it’s pretty nice here :)
The fuck is 196 anyway? I’ve got the original in my block list and I genuinely can’t remember why…
Shitposting? I guess?
The rule being that you gotta post something before you leave- doesn’t really matter what. (Barring the usual hate/NSFW/etc.)
That explains it I guess. Come a slow news day and it’ll be annoying as shit again.
