• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    I spent five figures paying mine off two years ago.

    Still 100% support my tax dollars paying for people’s college. In fact, I’d love that instead of the nine wars my tax dollars are paying for instead.

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        I’d settle for universal housing. And universal education. And universal healthcare.

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          I don’t understand why you need all of that. Let’s say we agree, next you’ll say people deserve clean water and steer the world away from climate disaster and genocide. You <insert group name> want it all!

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    I don’t get it

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    Ok thanks I get it now.

    People with student loans are mad there are loan forgiveness programs.

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      People with student loans are mad

      They’re generally not. But a few well-situated op-ed writers working for newspapers with a vested interest in the private loan industry have expressed a great deal of outrage.

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    This is a shit metaphor. In reality no one should be angry if there is a cure simply because they didn’t have to use it. Some cancer cannot just be beaten so yea, let them have the cure. Move on That’s just childish view on cancer.

    Student loans however yes, but for fuck sakes do not just compare such shit to cancer.

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      Checking my bank balance, and seeing this ugly growth that endlessly consumes while yielding nothing but anxiety and pain. Knowing that this ball of debt is intrinsic to my existence, but that a mutation in its purpose has transformed it from benevolent symbiote to voracious parasite. Talking to specialists and professionals about how to remove it, but hearing how my options are - themselves - often life-threatening or at least misery inducing for months or years at a time, and that there’s no real guarantee the growth can be removed as a result. Hearing how other people who were richer than me got a benign treatment much earlier on and are no longer suffering. Recognizing that there’s a national program to provide treatment in other countries, but we can’t import it because that would mean engaging with evil socialists.

      Fuck. You’re right. Nothing like cancer at all.

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    This analogy doesn’t really work though. Most people don’t willingly receive cancer. I think the thought process is you chose to borrow that money now it’s your responsibility to pay it back. If you worked an entire year to pay off your student loan debt and another person doesn’t work and their loans are paid off, you worked an entire year for free. Essentially slave labor. Anyone would be grateful when someone beats cancer but watching everyone around you get free handouts while you did what you are supposed to, I can see why people aren’t a fan of the idea. I paid off my student loans during COVID and I never expected any money back but I’d be lying if I said getting that money back now would not be extremely helpful in my life. I’m grateful that people are getting their loans forgiven. College shouldn’t cost remotely what it does.

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      Most people don’t willingly receive cancer.

      When I was a kid, my parents were able to set aside money for my benefit in advance so that when I started college I had enough for tuition, housing, and a car. When I graduated, I even had enough left over for a down payment on a starter home.

      I didn’t get to choose this. It was decided for me the day I was born. It was given to me purely by dint of who my parents happened to be and where I lived. In other countries, everyone has access to this level of public health care cough excuse me cough higher education. But I had to rely on a private system that rewarded people with the means to accumulate financial surplus.

      Also, my mom smoked when she was younger. But when she started trying to get pregnant, she quit. If she’d continued smoking through the pregnancy, it would have significantly increased my chance to develop some form of childhood cancer. Again, this was not something I got to choose. It was purely a consequence of my parents’ decisions.

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    This comic is based on pretty childish thinking. Repaying student loans isn’t a cure. It’s making everyone else pay the price (either through inflation, through rising education costs, or through direct tax later).

    Second, cancer isn’t a choice–student loans are.

    More accurately would be: I’m going to be so upset if I have to suffer even a little again to help everyone else make up for their bad decisions.

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      Imagine being this brainwashed. You know where higher education is free? Pretty much the entire civilized world. Guess whether 'murican taxes compare favorably or unfavorably against that?

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        Besides your ad hominem attacks you changed the whole point of the discussion. “Free” is not the same as asking everyone to pay for anyone’s college education.

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          Usual 'murican take. Do you use roads? Do you use clean water? I would ask about public transit, but you’re a 'murican, so I already know the answer to that is “no”.

          Everyone already pays for the State to exist. Civilized countries use that money to benefit all citizens through free higher education, free healthcare, free public transportation, etc. The US uses that money to kill children in the middle east and to bail out huge corporations.

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            It’s a false assumption that because that is the way things are that it is the way things ought to be, and that they couldn’t be arrived any other (much less any better way).

            This is a pretty typical response to any limitations on government–“but who will build the roads?”

            There are two basic problems

            1st: Your unwritten implication is that if government does these basic things then it must necessarily assert even bigger economic control–such as higher education–which is a false deduction.

            2nd: You imply that only the government can do these things or that government does it best. Also a false deduction. Practical experience says otherwise.

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    Fuck y’all. I chose to not go to college and went with a lower paying career field as a trade off for lower earning potential. Using the tax dollars I’ve paid over the years to help eliminate the negative trade off everyone else chose to take on when they went to college is crap.