• Chemical Wonka@discuss.tchncs.de
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        18 days ago

        We have to enjoy it while we still can

        Let’s face it, unfortunately the GrapheneOS developer team depending exclusively on Google hardware is a terrible thing in the long run, I bet that overnight Google will close the siege with the Pixels or possibly even abandon them so the whole community will have no alternative

        Google may also abandon Android, and there is no guarantee that another major company would keep it. I have real concerns about the Android model

        PS: I know the hardware requirements that GrapheneOS has to support a device

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          18 days ago

          It’s a reasonable stopgap until Linux smartphones are ready. I don’t need much, just regular phone features (phone, SMS/MMS, data, etc), decent battery life, and decent audio. Give me that and I’ll ditch my Pixel.

          And honestly, I could probably switch today if forced.

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            The problem is that everything is so reliant on apps nowadays. Paying for parking? There are multiple apps for that. Want to make payments on the go? Gotta use the banking app. Want to buy a bus or a train ticket? Download the app. Appointment with a dentist or a doctor? Download our app that has 500 built in trackers! Here in Scandinavia It feels impossible to live without a smartphone and these stupid apps. At least make a web app so that I don’t have to download spyware. I would love a linux phone, but if it isn’t compatible with these apps I might as well just get a Google Pixel running GrapheneOS.

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              18 days ago

              Just say no. I use a web browser for 90% of things, and just avoid stores that force an app down my throat. I don’t have a single store-specific app on my phone, and it’s glorious.

              I use GrapheneOS, and it’s surprisingly fine. Most things still have a functional website.

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            18 days ago

            stopgap until Linux smartphones are ready.

            Got a time machine? You can go back to when we had a Linux smartphone.

            …because we already had one.

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              18 days ago

              Which? Open moko?

              Every modern “Linux smartphone” I see has fundamental issues, like:

              • incomplete MMS support
              • crap audio
              • unreliable wake from sleep for calls and texts
              • crap battery life

              I just want basic phone things to work well.

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            I’m so fed up that I’m about to go all in on linux smartphones as long as phone, sms and data work. Everything else. Guess I don’t need it. To my knowledge those things do work. I just need to see how solid they are.

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        The thing is, how do we bring that about?

        I’m not sure Pine64 has a goal of bringing a product to retail readiness; the PinePhone was getting there, then they released the PinePhone Pro which broke a lot of the work done…

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          Idk. I don’t have the expertise to do low level work like battery tuning or fixing audio with any kind of efficiency, but once that work is done, I’d like to help get apps ported/created.

          I’m not sure who to throw money at or whatever.

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        16 days ago

        Personally it doesn’t need to be user friendly for me to use it, just have decent specs. Like at least a flagship phone from 2019 kind of specs. All the Linux phones are unbearably slow and have crap cameras and battery life.

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          Yeah but it needs to be user friendly in order get adoption and support. How many tech pieces are lost because they cant find a market.

          Im in agreeemnt that I just need a camera, phone text and browser mainly.

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    Cool, I still won’t “hey” anything since all these voice things are janky and privacy nightmares anyways.

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    I don’t think I’ve found a single use for Gemini it either refuses any questions I ask or just can’t do the task. I think everytime I’ve tried something I’ve resorted to using a different llm. Google has really lost its tech edge imo.

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    18 days ago

    If I had know the level of shit from google when I retired my previous 8 year old phone, I would have picked degoogled version of Fairphone.

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      18 days ago

      That is what I have! And loving it. Admittedly the Fairphone 3 was quite slow and annoying when I got it, but with LineageOS and some changed settings I’ve actually never had a better phone, or felt better about my phone.

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    18 days ago

    I’ve never gotten 'Hey Google" to work properly when the phone is locked. And my phone is always locked except when I’m already using it, in which case it’s just easier and less awkward to hold down the activation button.

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      It’s funny because I remember early on devices like the OG Moto X had mid-tier specs but they made sure the OK Google worked with screen off. That was like 10 years ago now wtf