It’s not just “Uncommitted” activists who are pressuring Kamala Harris on Gaza policy. Her own delegates are speaking out.
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20240821013836/https://theintercept.com/2024/08/20/dnc-harris-gaza-uncommitted-protest/
They’re funding a literal genocide against muslims right now so this isn’t much of a surprise. Anyone attending that to show support for that genocidal maniac would be like that.
Sadly they’re rationalizing it by blaming it all on bibi and Bidens just been too weak to stop anything another country is doing. If you point out anything contrary to that you’re a Russian troll.
Same if it’s the USA policy that can never change
The leftists outside looked from liberal to nazi, and from nazi to liberal, and from liberal to nazi again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
I am a liberal in the U.S sense. Not a leftist, nor a democrat, and certainly not a nazi.
I really bristle at the notion that there’s no room between liberals that want revolution, and party-line toting democrats.
There are literally dozens of liberals who don’t view the Democratic Party as representing them, but also aren’t all that interested what happens under Christian fascism if normal people don’t vote, or corporate takeover if the people overthrow the government. (Because, after the military, only large corporations have the organization, capital, and manpower to direct society - and they would, if given the chance.)First, I appreciate your reference to literal dozens of liberals. 😁
Second, you’re right that most liberals don’t want revolution. Non-liberals too, for the most part! Unfortunately, in some corners of Lemmy, such as Hexbear or Lemmygrad, the ability to distinguish and discuss nuance is not included in what I would describe as their “community values”.
If you’re looking for a constructive discussion about policy issues, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Alternatively, if you prefer to discuss everything in terms of absolutes, and you love China and tanks, it could be a great time.
Unfortunately, in some corners of Lemmy, such as Hexbear or Lemmygrad, the ability to distinguish and discuss nuance is not included in what I would describe as their “community values”.
But I’m standing right here… Making a nearly identical point about liberals
You’re standing right here, on Lemmy.zip, not on your home instance, and the comment I was responding to was a response to a different Hexbear user who was literally saying that there is no difference between liberals and Nazis.
If I meant to reply to your comment, I would have done that.
It was incredibly jarring when I first got to Lemmy and started running into nutjobs who seem to be on some sort of crusade, spouting ideas so far out of touch that they’re either straight up trolling or they are state propaganda assets from a western adversary. Sometimes when people ask where these people are coming from, I like to provide something of an orientation, as the community will never survive off of nutjobs alone.
You’re missing my point.
I know full well where I’m posting. You’re talking about the importance of nuance, while painting all Hexbear users as somekind of monolithic hivemind.
Meanwhile, I a humble Hexbear user, am trying to ask a user from another instance, in good faith, to explain their ideological position in more depth. Because I earnestly want to know.
If you want to probe the “liberal=fascist” sentiment, we can. But that’s not the discussion I’m trying to have here.
You’re the pot calling the kettle black, my friend.
Friend, you’re right, I am missing your point.
I wasn’t trying to engage in a conversation with you at any point. I don’t know why you keep replying.
We seem to mostly be in alignment on the issue of liberals and Nazis not being the same. I was offering my viewpoint to the original commenter I replied to, just in the same way that you did, when you came at me with this “I’m standing right here” bullshit.
If you’re hurt because I’ve insulted your instance, that’s tough. If you hang out with Anarchists all the time, you aren’t allowed to get upset if someone calls you an Anarchist. I’m far from the only person who has pointed out the frequency of viewpoints that lack any connection to reality coming out of Hexbear. My comment was a PSA and I won’t apologize for calling it out.
