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Got perm banned from Reddit because I said all Nazis can go kill themselves. Worth it
Win win!
“Nazi lives matter”
I see this comment a lot on Lemmy and it’s disturbing. I too was perma banned for telling a Nazi to “go to hell”. 10 year old account with no prior bans.
Welcome to the club. 12 year account for me, I told off some mysgonistic redpiller who called another user a slur, I quoted the slur so he couldn’t edit, told him to go fuck himself with a telephone pole, the kind with all the nails from years of posters being posted on it, and then reported him.
Mods banned me for “incivility and using a gendered slur,” took no action on the other user, I appealed it, they acted like pubescent fucksticks, so to keep talking to people I knew in that community I made a new account, then admins perma-IP-banned me for ban evasion.
I’ve been fighting this so long that I’m now instantly shadowbanned across all of youtube, google and reddit every time I make a new account. They’ve gotten very good at silencing users so that their bot-army can simulate human society and adjust our narratives at will. (Yes, google and reddit work together to produce AI bots, they announced it a while back, nobody paid attention.)
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I just said punching. Worth it.
You can’t say that! How am I supposed to kill them myself?
Yeah, kind of “killing the fun” right?! Lmao
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I like your take, but I still prefer this iteration:
Did they reinvent the onion?
Though the character of Indiana Jones or Harrison Ford as a person aren’t really worth to aspire to. Sure, the nazi punching part is great but being a sexist piece of shit isn’t…
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good here
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Why do you choose to see Jones in the context of the 1930s? It is a character based on the values of the 80s and onward. On top of being misogynistic, the character of Indiana Jones is also being the white hero playing into many racist tropes. So using Jones as this Nazi fighting hero doesn’t work even on the most basic level. Again, I’m all for punching Nazis, but we should choose better heroes or even better: no heroes at all!
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Indiana Jones is an original character from the movies. That said, he’s certainly based on adventure fiction and movies from the 30’s that inspired Spielberg.
Spielberg told Lucas he was interested in making a James Bond film, but Lucas pitched him of an idea “better than James Bond”, outlining the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Well, growing up in Germany with all my grandarents being more on the nazi side of WWII, I feel like the US idea of getting rid of nazis is that you just have to fight them like in WWII. It didn’t work though. German society and politics was still very much made up of nazis afterwards. Sure, they got taken the power to act upon their ideology in the same way as before. What you need is a systemic change where fascist ideas don’t have any space anymore, where emancipatory ideas can grow and where people are liberated in who they are and what they think. But the issue is, misogyny and racism like portrayed by the Indiana Jones movies are strictly opposed to emancipatory struggles. Giving discriminatory ideas like these too much space will again lead to more fascist tendencies. My point is, it isn’t always black and white, nazi or not nazi. I have no idea if my grandparents were all nazis. They were just kids brainwashed into this ideology. My granddad fought in the Wehrmacht against the allies, but he was just 17. It is easy to say “punch nazis” or “kill nazis”. But unless you have a clear cut enemy like in a political party or an opposing army, this gets messy pretty quickly.
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I say we normalize this
“Hi, I’m here to punch Nazis and get and an oil change”
Make everyone declare they have no Nazis before you get into business
Lol. Make a flow chart
- Show up.
- Punch nazis.
- ??? (CREATE SOMETHING NEW)
- Profit!!!
The dairy company Arla would be in trouble if they had to do this :D
Arla Finland has one of the few most prominent nazis in Finland in their board of directors. There was a bit of a scandal because of this about a year or two ago, but Arla’s Finnish daughter company said “we already know, but he has promised not to be a nazi during working hours, and it’s every employee’s personal choice what they do in their free time.” And Finland was okay with that (!!)
Guess if I have bought their products even once after that? 🙃
Well in that case, I suggest you show up and demand they submit their Nazi for punching so you can buy milk from them
Remember kids, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi!
Also Grammar nazis
I’m here to drink milk and kill nazis… and I’m lactose intolerant. >:(
Gas the nazis?
That’s just inhumane lol.
That’s the point. Humane is for humans. Being a Nazi, means you don’t care about human rights.
I’m joking. :)
The humanities do not tolerate inhumanity
Well said. If they did, they wouldn’t really be humane. Allowing unnecessary suffering is inhumane.
It’s sad, but for studies that don’t result in income for the government, they’re just not interested in funding it. You wanna know about philosophy? Tough shit. We need more people for the fulfillment centers, you better get good at holding in your pee.
I have a hard time understanding why we should fund philosophy studies with government money. I would need some convincing.
Feel free to comment here your best arguments for it.
Do you want anyone other than priests advising government officials on ethics? Then you want philosophy majors.
Why would a philosophy major would have better ethics than my, for instance?
Ethics are greatly influenced by so many aspects different to whatever career someone chose to study.
And we could cut the middleman just voting and electing people with the same ethical values as me. It would be a piss off democracy if I chose a representantive who campaigned for painting all buses blue because I share that view just for some unelected person coming to say “no that’s not ethical you shall not do that”.
Ethics of a society emerge from the society, not from a few individuals. Every person have a set of values and in democracies we chose what are the government positions on those values by voting. I think moral lobbing by a few selected individuals would be bad, no matter if priest of philosophy majors.
Philosophy is the science of thinking.
You are already doing it on an amateur level. Imagine what a professional would be capable of.
I only consider science those fields that can describe nature and assert this depiction of nature vie repeatable experiments. Thus I don’t agree on philosophy being a science.
I algo don’t agree that a professional would have better morals than me. Due the personal nature of what morality is.
Imagine I say my morals are the best, how is any professional philosopher to prove me wrong? It’s not possible. But if I say that “climate change is not real” a lot of climate scientist could show me evidence and offer me a set of experiments to undoubtedly prove me wrong.
I think of philosophy as a form of literature.
What we now call science developed directly out of philosophy. You don’t get to have science without it.
And the bible used to be considered an explanation on the origins of earth and the human being.
Luckily as time goes on humanity have been able to understand nature in better ways than we used to.
Applied ethics is not ‘what feels like it would be the most correct thing to do?’, it’s writing professional codes of conduct, establishing criteria for who should be allowed to get an organ transplant, who should be considered for parole, what scientific experiments should be allowed to happen, if I listed everything affected by the study of ethics I’d be here all day.
I don’t want a random schmuck who’s never thought about any of this for more than 5 minutes writing any of that, and I sure as shit don’t want people voting on it. That’s how you end up with abortion bans.
I’m pretty sure a lot of professional philosophers would agree on abortion bans, while a schmuck like myself agree on “mothers choice”… So…
You’re pretty sure based on what? Even self-proclaimed pro-life philosophers admit their position is rare. Ethics itself easily argues in favor of abortion but not against it, which is one reason it’s available in virtually every secular state.
You are starting from your conclusion (philosophy isn’t worth funding) and working backwards to make that fit any new evidence presented to you.
Not really. I’m just presenting arguments I have always had about philosophy not being a science.
Even if rare, not a single philosopher could make an experiment or present me a scientific theory that would prove that abortion is right or wrong. So the opinion of a single philosopher is as good as any other, and as good as mine for this matter.
Most modern philosophers are left wing, so yes, most philosophers would agree that left-wing morals are right, and that would present an opportunity for left-wing people to say that global morality should be decided by philosophers. I’m left wing myself but I’m against tricks and lies, even if they “benefit the cause”. And even if considering philosophers the moral light of our society would benefit me (as I mainly agree on most modern philosophers views) I personally consider it to be a false statement.
The not funding thing is on the air, yet. I’m just convinced is not a science, is more like literature and other forms of personal expression. And for me the argument would be founding all equally or none. And of course I don’t agree on giving any philosopher a position of authority on morals “just” for being a philosopher in the same way I would give a scientist an authority position in science just for being a scientist (once again, because the whole thing of science is that it’s subjected to experiments and falsifiability.
I don’t even want to diss philosophers. I enjoy reading philosophy a lot. But just as I enjoy reading any other kind of literature. I have respect for Liu Cixin (for instance) but I wouldn’t give him an special position in telling people what to do just because he writes good books that make you think.
humanity is a contract not a gift
Humanities core
Funny how indi got me into science
