• OmegaMan@lemmings.world
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    1 year ago

    It does, but not the right to genocide. For FAR too long they’ve used his line to excuse crimes against humanity.

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      The argument is laid out in the article linked by InfustryStandard but the short of it is: As Gaza and rhe West Bank are Israeli-occupied territories, Israel doesn’t have the right under international law to defend itself via military action against groups from those territories, unlike if the attack had come from—say—Lebanon. What it does have the right to do is engage in counterinsurgency effort while guaranteeing the Palestinian people’s basic rights under international law. They’re directly responsible for the lives of any and all civilians in the territories, and don’t get to outsource that responsibility to Hamas.

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        1 year ago

        This is an interesting concept I hadn’t heard before. I’m still pondering on it. Thanks for pointing it out.

        In my country (USA) it would certainly be INSANE if USN started sending cruise missiles into Puerto Rico because some Puerto Ricans had done terror attacks.

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        A lot of borders were rewritten as a consequence of wars throughout history. The initial Israel land was given to them by the victors of WW2. It’s legitimate. Get over it.

        Their actions since to slowly and inhumanely drive out Palestinians in order to occupy more land for themselves are not.

        Israel does have the right to defend itself, as any current country or region looking to protect itself. Their aggression beyond that self-defense is what should be stopped and punished.

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          Their actions since to slowly and inhumanely drive out Palestinians in order to occupy more land for themselves are not.

          “slowly” you do realize the first thing Israel did upon their founding was the Nakba right?

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            Had that worked for them them, we wouldn’t be here today discussing current day genocides. So yes, “slowly”.

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              1 year ago

              “Why did the Nazis invade Russia when they already conquered Poland?”

              Because (drum roll please)

              They are Nazis.

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                Yeah, I don’t get it. Nazis were set on European domination so of course they would have attacked Russia. Russia would have invaded them as well had the situation been reversed because they shared those ambitions, so I’m not seeing the point you’re trying to make.