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    To be fair, it’s not supposed to be Jesus’s sacrifice in Christianity, but humanity’s. Instead of having to sacrifice a chicken or a lamb for every occasion, God’s physical presence on earth was sacrificed as payment for all sins forever.

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      But like the picture says he came back after 3 days so the whole thing was pointless. More pointless than the general pointlessness of a god making a human version of himself to kill to open the doors to a heaven or hell that he could have done at any time for any reason himself and also knew it was coming. It’s seriously the dumbest story in the entire world

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        He came back for a few days, then left forever.

        The “sacrifice” is that he didn’t stick around forever.

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    Dude come on. He went to hell, freed some sinners, forgave everyone’s original sin… It was a busy weekend.

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      That’s right. Jesus went to Hell and suffered for our sins.

      Which is why we all have to do our part and commit sins. Otherwise, Jesus will have suffered for nothing. 😢

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        No problem on that front. Just being alive is a sin unless we get babtized by the church, or so it says.

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          Respectfully, that’s a load of bullshit and not how that works.

          I would strongly advise you to read. Matthew 19 to Matthew 22. Organized religion tends to have this thing where they add bullshit rules constantly to the the actual story.

          https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/19/Matthew-19-1.html

          The direct quotes from Jesus himself, especially in Matthew 21. Paint a very different picture than organized religion would tell you.

          In short it doesn’t matter if you live a overly pious and spiritual life and constantly put on that image, in fact it’s worthless. What matters is the acts and deeds you do. How you treat others.

          NIV Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

          “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

          “Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, " ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony,

          honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’ "

          “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

          Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

          When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

          Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.

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      Yeah, but he’s got like three parts, one of which lost the keys, one of which had to die to find the keys for a gate that shouldn’t have been locked in the first place, and the holy Ghost (I don’t remember what that one does. Booo?)

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        And that’s before you step back and wonder why an all-powerful, all-knowing, and (supposedly) all-loving god would create such a stupidly convoluted requirement to “save” the humanity that he created and put in the position in the first place

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          If you want my head cannon were a simulation God is a programmer and we’re just his buggy code.

          God had to step into the simulation to figure out why it was fucked.

          After experiencing the code that is humanity he realized it was a code error he made then forgives humanity for all of the rules we broke that he had made that were unfeasible.

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            And it would make sense that an engineer would be really bad at writing a creative story without plot holes… This is why we need more well-rounded educations for STEM majors!

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    If dying for our sins was the master plan, wouldn’t he have volunteered for crucifixion?

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      He did kinda convict himself according to the Bible. I dread doing things that require social interaction even if I know they’re good for myself and others, so I can imagine being crucified in front of his haters wasn’t exactly something he looked forward to on a human level.

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      Crucifixion was an exceptionally awful way to die. It could take days. The Roman soldiers were required to stay until the victim was dead, so sometimes they would stab them or build fires at the base of the cross to hurry the process along. The mere act of being crucified, even if you assumed the subject didn’t stay dead, represents an incredible act of dedication.

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    “You were bad, so Jesus took a nap. Now god forgives you”

    Huuuh? I need more wine for this crap…

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      Who among us hasn’t taken a day off work to come back and find that your coworkers ate the fruit you left in the communal fridge, and then subsequently condemned your coworkers and all of their descendants to eternal suffering, then felt bad later and changed your mind, pretending your son died for a couple days to drum up sympathy and distract from your overreaction?

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        The fruit wasn’t just left in the fridge. You told your coworkers about it, and how eating it would literally allow you, for the first time, to tell the difference between good and evil. Implying that you could not have known whether eating it was the right or wrong thing to do in the first place.

        Also, somehow it’s a bad thing to eat it and learn that?

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        Upvoted for mentioning they’re unfertilized. As someone who grew up working on farms, it always surprises me how many people think the eggs they buy in the store are all potential chickens.

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          People think we’re eating chicken abortions but really we’re eating chicken periods.

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    God condescended to incarnate as a human in the person of Jesus Christ. Jesus lived on earth as a man and with all of our aches, pains and bodily functions. He was hated for his ministry because the new covenant opened the kingdom of God to gentiles around the world. He was killed by the Jews and entombed for three days. He descended into Hades to preach the gospel and rose on the third day before ascending into heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He sanctified our fallen human nature by living a perfect life. God became man so that man might become God. Jesus Christ loves you and wants you to be saved. Get baptized and, although you will fail, try to live in accordance with his teachings.

    Blessed Pascha. Christ is risen from the dead.

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        The Romans executed him at the behest of the Pharisees. (e.g. Pontius Pilate washing his hands and the Jews choosing Barrabus to be set free even though he was a known murderer)

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          roman authority handled Jesus the same they handled any other crucified person. The situation was considered like any other uprising and handled accordingly, not a conspiracy to target him. This is supported by the fact that roman documentation of the crucifixion is blasé.

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            Jews had their own judiciary (e.g. Sanhedrin) the Jewish leadership sought Jesus’s crucifixion because they considered him a blasphemer for declaring himself as the Messiah equivalent with God, not keeping the laws of Moses, establishing a new covenant and keeping sinful company. The Romans had the Monopoly on violence because they ruled the area but the Jews managed their community. The Romans nailed Jesus to the cross but the Jewish leadership (specifically the Pharisees) put him there. I wouldn’t expect it to seem out of the ordinary for the Romans outside of Pontius Pilate.

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              Sounds like the Roman’s did it bc they couldn’t be bothered with the civil unrest from another of the many cults in the region.

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    “Oh shit. They killed the prophet. Now what?”

    “We’ll say he came back to life!”

    “Brilliant! But… uhh… then what do we say when people ask where he is?”

    “Ohhhh. Uhhhh… he came back to life, but then he like ascended to heaven. Couldn’t stick around. Sorry, mate, he isn’t here.”

    “Well, they’ve believed all of this other stupid shit up until this point, so let’s give it a try.”

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    It’s like in anime when the characters use some “forbidden technique” that steals 10 years of their life span, then the anime ends with the character still growing old well enough.

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      “anime old” is like 150 years old or whatever, so 10 years off that don’t change much…

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    Just found this community, and I have read thr sidebar. Thank you moderators for being rational and setting off limits! Have a happy easter, you all! ❤️

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    I mean not just a weekend, a HOLIDAY WEEKEND. He totally missed out on easter weekend.

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      He was back in time for the egg hunt. Wait a second, where was he when the Easter Bunny was here?!?

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        “J just like his Dad

        E ever so just (like his Dad)

        S specless (he never wore glasses)

        U unable to swim

        S sometimes I wonder if he was praying for the betraying kiss of Judas so as not to miss out on his Easter egg

        C cut bread into very thin slices

        H hippy aeroplane impressionist

        R really easy to spot in a crowd on a Good Friday

        I I wonder if he had a dog

        S escapologist

        T took him three days but he did it

        • In the name of the Lord”

        ― John Hegley, Can I Come Down Now Dad?

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    Canonically, like, actual canon canonically, he didn’t even give up his weekend. He went up to chill in Heaven for awhile, with a side trip to Limbo to rescue the Old Testament prophets and some other old dead guys. He didn’t give up his weekend; he went on vacation.