https://old.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1k52y62/oc_distraction_tactics/mof3qpd/
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It’s blatant fascism in its first stages.
I have witnessed that people throw the word “fascism” out as a thought-terminating cliché in year 2024 and year 2025, to end conversation and stop thinking.
fascism in its first stages.
Bill Moyers, who used to be a director in the White House, and has direct education from Joseph Campbell when he filmed the Power of Myth series with George Lucas back in 1986 and 1987 already declared it was first stage back in March 2016. https://billmoyers.com/story/trump-the-american-fascist/
We are so far beyond first-stage in April 2025. But beyond that, what concerns me in my message you replied to is that it people don’t recognize that all dehumanization / mass dehumanization is bad. People seem to get very fixated on single topics like gender and “red states” vs “blue states” and not goodness itself. People are flocking to values of “Hate Harder”, and I don’t care if they are MAGA or against MAGA, support Trump or hate Donald Trump, if they are preaching dehumanization and “hate harder” then they are adding fuel to the bonfire of humanism.
I’ve been in social media since the early 1980’s. I know how all this works. I used to work for Paul Allen and Bill Gates as a consultant and on Paul Allen’s private staff, I’m a published author on media systems and an expert on spam filtering.
Silent removal (or never publishing, even for a single second) is unethical and bad, especially how it manipulates you as creator into appearing as if your comment was published - and you wonder why nobody replies or upvotes. It’s manipulative. My Reddit account is over 15 years old, the spam filters have clear patterns of Russian manipulation / weaponized agitation to remove content on important keywords and author names.
I’m not sure why you are here defending Reddit against someone calling it out who clearly knows what the fuck they are talking about. But it’s very sus.
Legit question: What social media existed in the early 80’s? Usenet? Were you a big name on a dial-in BBS?
I was a reddit mod for over a decade. I wrote automod rules for subreddits with several million users and dealt with the reddit spam filters on various occasions. Not to take away from your experiences, but I think I have a pretty good knowledge of this very specific set of systems that we’re discussing now.
Never said it wasn’t. The only discussion I’m having with you is whether or not it was the paid reddit employees who removed it or volunteer user moderators, and I’m inclined to think its the latter based on the fact that it was later approved and visible. A user moderator wouldn’t be able to override the admins removing it, or rather wouldn’t even try because the admins would then take action against that user moderator. My personal inclination is that your post got filtered by automod and later approved by a user moderator. Admittedly it could also have somehow fallen into an actual spam filter, but that tends to be much rarer, especially for an account with some karma and age. I suppose it could also be that billmoyers.com is on reddit.com spam filter, you could check that by posting with a alt in a subreddit you mod and see what happens.
Mine was too until reddit banned it during the API protest.
I’m not defending reddit. I’m pointing out that you’re assigning blame to the reddit admins when it’s not definitively them doing something.
vOv If you think it’s that suspicious by all means block or ban me. I’m not going to lose sleep over it.
I don’t support book burning, blocking content I disagree with. That’s nazi Germany shit. You know they didn’t have the Apple iPhone and Unicode text in 1935 Germany? They had to burn actual books and magazines printed on paper. Many people seem to invite book burning and say “bring it on”, I don’t.
Automated systems they don’t publish the rues on topic is their responsibility. Why do you keep deflecting for them? This is not a human judgement, this is code server-side at time of publication.
I am in NO WAY saying a human “admin” or “owner” removed it by hand. It is INSTANT, under 1/4 second that I can see it never gets into the comment queue, it is server-side filtered, I’m talking about who programs the server-side code and allows a system of spam filtering and automod that does not publish the rules. They - THE CODE AUTHORS and SITE OWNERS - FORBID topics on front-page communities that in no way are hostile to anything but Russia’s information warfare (“Internet Research Agency”) and Cambridge Analytica topics.
I filed bug report after bug report that whenever I posted a specific link to the BBC, it would get filtered off: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45294192
Why was this August 24, 2018 story being unpublished by Reddit servers on ANY community during the 2020 / 2021 pandemic?
99% of the Reddit community doesn’t even realize their comments don’t get published. I go through people’s profiles and see many are unpublished and they never comment about it. You can see them ONLY in the profile page. The keywords and patterns are rather predictable in some circumstances, so I can often predict which ones to spot-check.
I’m not talking about hate-messages or attacking other users here, I’m talking about certain topics of Donald Trump, Russian / Kremlin information warfare, etc. Even specific USA teachers (from the 1990’s) I have found about media ecology and “War Against Reality” topics (Russian information warfare methods). And Reddit is NOT the only systems to have these targeted patterns of suppressing certain teachers / educators / books when mentioned with identifiable keywords.
I already do, it is only on front-page postings that they have a different set of filter rules in place. I’ve been analyzing this problem since 2015 when I contacted the Pentagon specifically about Reddit infiltration by someone waging Hybrid Warfare / state-level sophistication. “I reported it in 2015 under Biden/Obama! At the time, I did not know it was Russia attacking social media, but I knew it was hard core Joseph Campbell / Dr. Stephan A. Hoeller level Mythology, and I reported it! I was BOOTS on the Ground in North Africa Arab Spring, December 2010. I know my shit!”
The automoderator bot was integrated into the website years ago, so yeah, it’s going to be instantaneous. The rules for automoderator are still put in place by volunteer human moderators. You mod a couple subreddits, you can verify that you can put in rules yourself on the automoderator config page for any of them.
Refer to previous comment. Also, publishing automod or spam filters just tells potential bad actors they’ve been found out, leading to them adjusting accordingly. Personally I’d set automod to notify folks on some things (Usually just not having enough karma), but not, say, slurs. To wit: here’s the regex we used just to catch variations of the n-bomb in several subreddits-
n[i!j1e]+gg?(rs?|ett?e?s?|lets?|ress?e?s?|r[a0oe]s?|[ie@ao0!]rs?|r[o0]ids?|ab[o0]s?|erest)A lot of communities use automod. A lot of stuff can get false flagged by automod configs depending on how anal retentive or bad at doing it the writer of the individual config is. Scunthorpe and all that.
I KNOW ALL THIS. You keep deflecting the OWNERS of the site, as if they are not responsible for what goes on with secret manipulation of content!
Yha, which is why I have been tracking the problem since 2015! It isn’t accidental on certain topics. You seem extremely gullible or here to promote gullibility among social media users. You should see the changes since October 7, 2023 Palestine terrorism attack in the Middle East! (Which is also Putin’s birthday). Massive filtering is being done on topics and it is being done in secret, concealed from both the author of the comments and other consumers (there is no message that a comment was removed, no tombstone appears), and nobody is talking about it. People on Reddit only talk about being banned, not for this NEVER-PUBLISHED server-side filtering of topics.
I suggest you face up to your attitude if you aren’t outright being insincere just to waste my time.
Mastadon Hashtag “Gullible USA”: https://mastodon.social/tags/GullibleUSA
“Michael Tomasky. April 21, 2025. Fooled Again Who Were Those Gullible People Who Believed Donald Trump’s Bullshit? His campaign promises, from peace in Ukraine to “beautiful” tariffs, were truly unbelievable. And yet, somehow, many people believed him.” - https://newrepublic.com/article/194176/donald-trump-voters-gullible-lies-ukraine-tariffs
October 19, 2024 - “America’s gullibility crisis. by Zachary Basu. In the heat of this historic election, educated elites who should know better — billionaires, elected officials, journalists — keep falling for fakes, conspiracy theories and outright lies. Why it matters: Human gullibility is not a new phenomenon. But social media and polarized politics are exposing it at industrial scale” - https://www.axios.com/2024/10/19/musk-ackman-election-misinformation
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“The first tool of authoritarian regimes is always informational control—both in the gathering of information on the public through surveillance and the filtration of information to the public through owned media. In its early days, the Internet seemed to pose a challenge to authoritarian regimes, but with the advent of social media, we are watching the construction of architectures that fulfill the needs of every authoritarian regime: surveillance and information control. Authoritarian movements are possible only when the general public becomes habituated to—and numbed by—a new normal.” ― Christopher Wylie, Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America, published 2019
If you know this then why did you say, “This is not a human judgement, this is code server-side at time of publication.”, and “It is INSTANT, under 1/4 second that I can see it never gets into the comment queue, it is server-side filtered”? Both of those would imply that you did not know that automod was a native part of the site used by the volunteer moderators of the site. Automod configs are not set up by the admins of reddit. Moderators of subreddits can use those automod configs as they please so long as they don’t violate site rules.
Pointing out that automod both exists and a user created config is the likely reason your comment was removed from the comics subreddit (Which itself probably goes harder on political commentary because the mods there likely don’t want to have to deal with said commentary.) isn’t promoting gullibility.
I suggest you stop spending time on reddit. spez isn’t going to change. All you’re doing going there now is enriching him with all of your content that he’s going to sell for AI bucks.
https://www.artificialintelligence-news.com/news/reddit-is-reportedly-selling-data-for-ai-training/
You continue to act like a public relations agent for Reddit owners who deflects all responsibility of their website. “The Buck Never Stops with the Owners Here”. As if they are not supposed to police and validate the website and see if they have been infiltrated by FSB moderators and other nation-state actors… or Elon Musk or whoever.
If I wanted to change spez and was only concerned about a single person, I’d be messaging him directly. You seem to be doing everything you can to deflect that the topic is a matter of media ecology education for the entire world of 8 billion people. !MediaEcology@lemm.ee I teach here on Lemmy.
I think you are gullible about gullibility being widespread in USA and needing attention.
You continue to act like the reddit admins are secretly targeting you when you bring up psi-ops in the comics subreddit, when in reality the solution is likely a lot simpler… but doesn’t let you feel like someone important.
As for what the admins are supposed to do, the fact that the only reason they banned the jailbait subreddit was media outcry should tell you everything you need to know about their moral compass.
And you’d be ignored at best or have your account suspended at worst.
Its not deflecting if I am not discussing it in the slightest and made it clear several comments ago what I very specifically AM discussing, which is that your commentary was very likely not removed by a paid employee of reddit (As I previously stated: “The only discussion I’m having with you is whether or not it was the paid reddit employees who removed it or volunteer user moderators”). I will continue to discuss that, and only that, if you’d like to save yourself a fair amount of typing.
Nope, it’s systemic on front-page topics. I already mentioned I check other profiles of other users, but you keep defecting responsibility away from those making profit off the site.
You have consumed a lot of my time and attention defending Reddit owners for profiting off manipulating their end-users.
You sound very ego driven in your concerns for the population of the world, the everyday people. My concern is 8 billion people on the planet as I said to you in my last reply. !MediaEcology@lemm.ee literacy of every person.
I have said this again and again, it was not hand removed. The owners have a responsibility to know if they have been infiltrated by hostile parties. It sounds to me like you could use !RemedialMorality@lemm.ee lessons on what “good” means from bad, a lot of machine lovers in 2025 seem to defend machines and computer systems that wreck human purposes. Where I live, the United States of America, where Reddit is centered, we in April 2025 are having a Mass Dehumanization Crisis right now, lead by Elon Musk / his Memphis data-center values.