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    I mean, this wouldn’t be all that stupid imo. Add some Apple watch functionality like fitness detection and easy syncing between phone and iPod Nano Buds, this would be a solid addition to a runner’s arsenal leaving no need to carry your $1000 phone on a run. Suppose you could use your watch for that and leave the case at home though. But more options aren’t a bad thing, not everyone has or wants a watch.

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      You are right, but I also think you missed the point of the post. This is basically an iPod nano from 2005 with a few extra features.

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      leaving no need to carry your $1000 phone on a run.

      my brother in christ it’s called an MP3 player.

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        Yeah, precisely. That’s what this would be, built into your headphone case. You never have one without the other.

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          right, then what if you could sync any bluetooth headphones to the case? mind blown

          edit : or if it had a 3.5mm jack, so you could use wired headphones too? amazing. in fact, what if it also took AA batteries for emergencies?

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    Doesn’t the Apple Watch already fulfill the function of an iPod Nano? It works with Bluetooth headphones and has 16 GB of storage you can use for music, which is a lot by iPod Nano standards.

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      My series 9 has 64GB. I have multiple playlists downloaded to it which is great for the gym. You can also just stream music from it over wifi or cellular.

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      I think the purpose of it would be to control the device the headphones are connected to, rather than be the source of the media

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          My guess would be that you could control things like playlist, shuffle, etc. Like a smartwatch interface but only for music.

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        I tried a pair of earbuds with the same idea from AliExpress. They had the regular controls, but also worked as e.g. a camera remote. Very cool if it had done anything it was supposed to do consistently, but unfortunately it was not well-implemented. If the AirPods Pro 3 (which I was already strongly considering) have a case with a screen that isn’t much larger than the Pro 2 case, I’ll probably buy that model.

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    It’s almost a shame that they decided to go with wide instead of tall.

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    If this ever got released, it would probably require constant phoning home and cost $400. Separately.

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      10 months ago

      just wait for the generic quasi-unbranded (you know, like “denver”) version, which will cost $60 and work better than apple’s version, just with the downside that it’ll look boring and cheap

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        Oh, I dont even need to worry. JBL already do these and I haven’t touched an Apple product since the iPhone 4.

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    Apple patents all sorts of weird shit. 99% of it never gets made. They just want the money from patent litigation and licensing.

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    I’m surprised nobody has done yet as I’ve seen all sorts of features be added to earphone cases. Maybe a decent touchscreen is not yet cheap enough to throw at some case without the profit margin of the apple brand.

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    can they even patent that? its already a thing that made it to production on at least one brand that sells in north america and another two or more in china

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      I was gonna say, pretty sure I’ve seen something like this on Amazon already, except from some weird Chinese company.

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      11 months ago

      can they even patent that?

      What “that”? They can patent a specific technical solution that is unique to their product, not the idea per se.

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    I have earbuds that don’t need to be charged and use a cable for easy connectivity and sound quality.

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      Both have their pros and cons. I miss my Westone 1 IEMs that I had back in college. My buddy’s dog chewed them up. They were comfortable and super light, had great sound quality, a cord that wasn’t obnoxious. Not having a cord is great though too especially when I’m working. Multipoint connection is great too. I can be listening to stuff on my phone with it in my pocket, no cable getting in the way, and when I get a call on Teams, my Pixel Buds just switch over to the computer.

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        it kills me that urbanears stopped making the Plattan Bluetooth model, it was basically the perfect design for on-ear headphones

        Note the 3.5mm jack, it could do both wireless and wired, and you could even use the jack to output music! like come on how is this not the standard design? i have seen the light and now every time i look at other headphones they just seem obviously subpar

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      You know what’s easier than a cable? No cable.

      I’ll give you sound quality, but the whole reason that wireless earbuds took off is the hassle of wires.

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        And also no latency. Even expensive Bluetooth headphones and earbuds have crap latency. The systems that don’t are either proprietary and not widely supported (e.g. aptX) or expensive 'phones-and-dongle arrangements that must always travel in a pair and still don’t compete on latency with a pair of dollar store earbuds.

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          Unless you’re using them for gaming or some other interactive medium, latency doesn’t really matter though. For music, latency is irrelevant and for video, your device will take care of syncing the audio and video playback so it’s a non issue. Audio quality is an entirely different matter of course.

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            Your video player “can” account for latency if you configure it correctly which I imagine the majority of people don’t do, and simply put up with it. Ditto with your music playback always lagging 1-2 seconds behind your control inputs. I have never used a media player on any platform that automatically figured out audio latency. Maybe the iDevices do if you pair them with Airpods, I don’t know; I don’t own anything Apple and I never will.

            It also matters for music production, and makes life a lot more pleasant for audio/video editing. Plus, latency is just annoying in any setting.

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              There’s nothing to configure with modern android and Windows devices, it just works from my experience. Watching a video on YouTube or on the native media players at least you get a fraction of a second where it’s out of sync and then it pauses the video for whatever time necessary to get back in sync, and no issues from there on out.

              The only instances where I notice it doesn’t work are games and video editing software, but yeah, those are just not use cases where wireless audio is appropriate

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              Your video player “can” account for latency if you configure it correctly which I imagine the majority of people don’t do.

              Windows and Android do this automatically out of the box, don’t know about other platforms.

              Ditto with your music playback always lagging 1-2 seconds behind your control inputs.

              Since music isn’t an interactive medium, this doesn’t really matter much (also the latency is more like 100 to 500 ms depending on a variety of factors)

              It also matters for music production, and makes life a lot more pleasant for audio/video editing

              Well of course, if you’re doing that A) this is not an application for wireless audio solutions so…uh…duh and B) you’re probably not on a phone if you take video or music production seriously 😅

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              Yes indeed, Apple’s had acceptable latency (e.g. for YouTube) since no later than 2017.

              I’ve only thought about it when specifically wondering how they pulled it off (and I assumed the phone did something slightly fancy to add a delay on the visual side)

              Glad you’ve never paid their tax in any case!

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                I don’t know about iPhone, but I’ve notice a cool trick that my Android uses is, immediately upon unpausing a video, it will play and jump the video to the point it will need to be to sync the audio, so while you may skip back a few frames initially, you do receive immediate visual feedback rather than seeing a frozen frame while waiting for the audio delay.

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          not widely supported (e.g. aptX)

          I can find over 600 aptX capable headphones as well as over 850 phones, also any laptop I ever had supported it (Linux though, so probably not always “official” lol).

          Low latency is a thing, you can get this as low as ~30-50ms either through aptX LL / Adaptive, whatever the manufacturer apps do or by manually meddling with the settings for SBC. Will get rather unstable though since you effectively get rid of the buffer. Really depends on your usecase what you prefer. Personally I love having ANC headphones that support bluetooth but also got a headphone jack in cases where I sit in trains, buses or planes for hours and want to play some games or listen to music with a DAC.

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        No, what did it was removing headphone jacks and selling only crappy non-repairable headphones.

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        You really think that’s a dunk? “Wireless” just means you plug it in when not in use. There’s nothing hard about plugging in a 3.5mm audio jack. I’ve never been sufficiently convinced to actually use wireless headphones. They seem like more of a hassle for a worse listing experience.

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          what universe do you live in? wireless is obviously more convenient since you just put the buds in your ears and click play, with wires you have to also put in the wire and you have a physical cable that can get caught on things or get in the way.

          just get a pair of cheapo wireless earbuds and genuinely try using them, you’ll most likely realize that it is actually way more convenient and that actually you just wanted to be a reverse hipster.

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            My experience comes from previous attempts at using wireless headphones. It’s just easier for me to plug in and not have to do literally anything else for a premium listing experience.

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          Wireless means you plug it in occasionally, maybe once a week.

          If you don’t value the convenience of wireless headphones, that’s great for you. For a lot of people, the cable is a real pain in the ass. It gets tangled up when it’s off. It gets caught up on things when it’s on, etc.

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        You know what’s easier than no cable? Not losing your ear buds

        Haven’t been able to use ear buds outside of the house ever since they got rid of the jack

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          I’ve never lost one in at least a decade of using them. But, I don’t use the kind that just balance on the edge of your ear.

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            LPT: pull up on your ear while inserting earbuds, this will let them squeeze further into the ear canal which has been the difference between them refusing to stay in the ear, and being rock solid in there. Better seal against outside noises as well.

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      My earbuds are connected to a bt receiver that functions as a (not great, but okay) dac via usb too. Pro is that I can use the receiver with all my headphones, con is that it looks like an iPod shuffle gen 3

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      I really dont get cable simping here on Lemmy. It’s awful UX and yall can’t hear the sound difference anyway lmao

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    Absolutely revolutionary creams in pants I have never before witnessed this level of utter genius before in my entire 30 some odd years of existence. I was right in front of us checks notes this entire time and we were blinded by our own hubris.

    TLDR; Nature finds a way.