This guy just keeps getting more and more wonderful ❤️
I never watched or read any Harry potter media (except for the parody Harry is a Pothead and the Sorcerer’s stoned), so this boycott is easy for me.
It’s be interesting how the fascist agitprop will boost this show. We’ve seen many cases of feminist or pro trans themes in shows incurred massive backlash from influencers and their hordes. Part of the “culture war”. I’d expect a lot of hype and praises for the show no matter how good or bad it is.
Sometimes I wonder did they make Snape casting on purpose just to cause hatred? Unless Harry Potter and his friends are also non-white or they change the story from the books heavily this is gonna be a wild ride to watch in this America where racists rule the roost.
Does it count as a boycott if never intended to watch it in the first place? Or that I haven’t watched any of them except the first one when it was new?
Arent you guys sick of the same 4 franchises? Marvel, Star wars, Lord of the rings, Harry Potter.
It’s a bit unfair to rope LOTR into this, it only has a single spin-off series which is pretty great. Which is pretty great if you’re not a fascist or hardcore nerd of the books. And hardcore nerds only have “fun” criticism discussing how the story spanning 3000 years is being adapted.
Mmmmmm. LOTR has 6 movies running 18hrs theatrical, 22hrs extended cut.
Multiple anime, TV show, comics, graphic novels, books, spin offs and more…over done. Over cooked. Trite.
Star wars has 9 mainline movies spanning 20hrs.
Multiple anime, TV show, comics, graphic novels, books, spin offs and more…Disney is literally wearing this franchise as a skin suit to keep it going.
The Marvel Infinity Saga core movies, 19 hours…etc…blah blah blah…Disney. Morning Erection…something something, cum daddy.
Haha forgot about the Hobbit and didn’t know about the anime. Comics, well, whatever. But I don’t think it can be compared to the constant marketing and big screen content of the other franchises. Tolkien estate is pretty careful not to turn out endless pulp.
Okay I’ll give it to you. But there are still significant and painful advertisement campaigns that are beating us over the head with the other 3 franchises
I actually think often about how franchises are (miss)managed and how IP laws suck and should work. Just watched “Dune Prophecy” yesterday, which I avoided so far because it’s partially based on Frank Herbert’s hack writer of a son’s novel (it was ok though). Besides the profit motive, there it seems more like a psychological need to bastardize the franchise. Marvel was never serious so I don’t mind it much, it’s just annoying. Star Wars sequels suck but again, never was serious literature. I do hate the new Star Trek Kelvin timeline with a burning passion though because Star Trek was a cultural touchstone.
That’s not what the decision said, but JK and their ilk are trying to push it as that.
Their decision is limited to what they believe was meant in the Equality Act 2010. It’s just them indicating what a law meant originally.
A law that was written by people who didn’t know better.
Now we know better, as the science is undeniable, but what we know now doesn’t change what the law meant. That’s why what the UK needs to do now is change the law to properly match science.Rowling and other flavors of transfobes want to muddle the waters and act as if everything was set in stone, but it isn’t.
There have been amendments to the Equality act before, the latest in in 2023 and 2024, they can do more.https://www.legislation.gov.uk/primary+secondary?title=Equality+Act+2010+amendment
Do not play into their game. Instead, push for change.
Does anyone want anything to do with this?
Well wasn’t going to anyways because Rowling is a horrible person but now I’ll double down in not watching it.
Don’t watch it, twice! Three times even!
Going to pirate it, burn to cds and then recycle them into sex toys for the transgender. That’ll show em!
I am no literature snob but I thought the first few books were good at the time for YA fiction. I still have the full set on my shelves and would be overjoyed if my kids read any novels, even imperfect ones.
People have nit picked JKs works to death and yes, there are problems. Half the stuff I was reading and watching as a kid was far, far worse. Like I was reading stuff that on reflection was clearly written by very far right authors, pedos etc as well as stuff that went way in other directions. I get why people boycott shit like that but I think its probably good to be exposed to some other points of view, even ones you vehemently reject.
People should be supporting new authors and new stories and stop throwing money at tired old corporate franchises. And that goes for the lazy Disney shit as well and all the Hollywood remakes. Unfortunately we have all been squeezed economically so there is fuck all money left to buy media and we are being squeezed for attention so nobody is taking time to read novels or listen to albums. The culture wars are certainly very significant (as a straight white male I know I have blind spots here), particularly for minorities with a lot at stake. But I feel the real enemy is the death of individual economic freedom and free time. Do we really need another big streaming series that brings nothing new to our lives and exists only to enhance shareholder value?
Not to ruin something you like, but you might enjoy reading the Worst Witch series, which Joanne copied for her early books.
I am an old man so I don’t read much kid’s/YA fiction and I wasn’t ever a huge HP fan. I tried to watch a tv adaption of WW with my daughter and we didn’t get past the first episode for some reason. We do like a lot of other witchy fiction though. I am hoping the Witchhat Atelier anime is high quality and doesn’t have creepy fan service. That had a really interesting magic system.
JKs works are full of tropes as is most fiction and it clearly isn’t great literature but I am not persuaded by accusations of plagiarism. Every Tarantino movie rips off other movies. The Dollars trilogy was clearly a retelling of Kurosawa samurai movies.
I don’t want to praise JK given her open hostility to the community here but the cross over appeal of her works was a cultural phenomenal at the time. I understand why many people are motivated to rip her work and legacy to shreds. She has very much earned peoples disrespect. As someone who is not targeted by her hateful views I feel detached enough to reject JK as a person without completely dismissing her works and cultural impact. Yeah, that’s some privilege at work but we are who we are. I am never going to have the same awareness or sensitivity about lack of representation, stereotypes etc in her writing.
There’s a huge difference between “homage” and “copying.” For example, Rowling references many legendary myths, like the Nicholas Flamel and the Philosopher’s Stone. That’s a reference, and while it’s not original, it’s not so much stealing as using the existing tapestry.
The problem is not that she used existing concepts and tropes, but that she only used existing concepts and tropes. There literally isn’t a single original concept in any of the books, and the source material is usually (but not always) better. It’s like somebody made artwork out of clip art and photographs of famous paintings. And that’s fine, but it’s not creative or even well-crafted.
The dialogue is distractingly bad, the fantasy elements are disjointed and inconsistent, the mysteries are either obviously telegraphed or non-sequitur deus ex magicka that erase all tension or intrigue.
Is an Oreo cookie a good cookie? It’s very popular, and many people love them. It’s a knock off of Hydrox, of course, but that’s not why it’s not a good cookie. The cream filling is waxy and cloying, the cookies are cocoa-adjacent and stale, and they are mass produced by a company that is deforesting the planet and relying on child slaves. But they taste good dunked in milk. I like them. And that’s OK. Not everything has to be the best possible version of what it could, or shoul, be.
But if the inventor of the Oreo was running around going “I’m the best baker in the world because I came up with the Oreo, and also disabled people should be euthanized,” we can say that this hypothetical person sucks at both being a person and at baking cookies. The former is obviously worse than the latter, but then you have defenders saying “yes, OK, this person may not be a good person, but what they created is great.” No. What they created is popular but that doesn’t make it good.
I tried to read Twilight on a dare once. I dare anyone to suggest JK’s writing is worse than Stephenie Meyer. A lot of popular fantasy and YA isn’t much better than fan fiction. Hunger Games feels even more derivative in many ways but I don’t know if that hurts it.
I agree HP isn’t great art. I read the books once when they came out and that was enough for me. It was a genuine cultural phenomenon though. In the late 90s. early 2000s, before iPhone, Facebook, Youtube it was just some pop culture that filled in the many hours of analog leisure time. It brought joy to a lot of people and relieved some boredom for others. The series had good and bad. The good was the accessibility and interest it generated in reading for a relatively wide audience. Given JK’s current reputation as a person I think it is too easy to dwell on the bad and completely ignore the rest. It is reasonable to cease supporting the HP franchise though. Whatever its merits it had run its course a long time ago.
Some people really like Twilight – maybe you are not the target demographic.
I really liked the first 4 Harry Potter books as a kid. I don’t really agree with the criticism above. I thought it was cool to read about this little boy like me discovering magic and exploring a cool castle and fighting dark wizards.
There is a lot of criticism I agree with – like isn’t it weird that Harry’s magic society is a capitalist paradise where he buys wands and his poor best friend spends their lottery windfall on a vacation so they must not be that poor, and anyway how can you have poverty in a post-scarcity magical society?
But on the other hand it was so relatable to see Harry go on shopping trips because that’s what I was doing in the 90s/2000s, and having feelings about how the rich kid’s dad always paid for him to have cool toys like a nimbus 2001…
twilight target demographic were young female teens,
Way ahead of you
I’m way ahead of this because I absolutely HATE the originals because of how often they play them on TV. The transphobic writer of the original wanting to do a do-over most likely because the original cast spoke out against her is also real atrocious as well.
The franchise is actually really bad when you think about it. Full of plotholes and really poor writing but the vibe of the original movie (and maybe the sequel) was really spot on for that time period.
The best writers can do is take creative control from her and add things that will show her up, like what they did in the latest videogame, and add transgender characters and actors.
Wait that’s why they’re doing this? What a clown she is.
she wanted to rewrite the characthers, probably to her “terf beliefs” and people already indicated in the past her books were already what she currently believes in, just very subtle.
Oh God… She’s absolutely going to create a monster that pretends to be a human as some kind of lazy “Trans Bad” parable…
This is going to be the fucking Heathers Reboot all over again
No idea if it’s true, but it’s a rumor I’ve heard that sounds plausible enough. Can’t speak for all the cast, but I’m fairly certain the main trio have spoken up against her, though.
she probably want different actors, or rewriting to make it look like they cant question her terf. she will be hardpressed to find someone who is an actor and is a terf like her, those actors have largely been expelled from hollywood, and only making shitty christian or anti-woke movies.
You don’t need to tell me twice. I only have nostalgia for the original Harry Potter movies and games because it has a lot of super popular British actors, and I was about 6-years-old when they came out.
I have no nostalgia for the books, and I have no interest in watching the same story again but HBO-ified.
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What’s a cult?
Don’t you have to have a leader for it to be a cult?
Sorry, you think the trans community is the cult?
lol, maga nuts can’t even boycott China without having someone force them to
However, please go more into detail. I would love to help you understand how the actions of oppressing others and being oppressed are different.
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You’re a stupid fucking misogynist and a moron if you think gatekeeping womanhood at all is good, let alone the dumbfuck way that the UK is trying to do it. Get the fuck out of here, this is not Reddit where your ignorance and hateful rhetoric is tolerated.
which in doing so oppresses people outside of that overgeneralized definition
Let the law decide personal decisions, great precedent to set.
I think you might be out of place here, and might feel a bit safer on twitter with the rest of the Nazis❤️
thank you Lemmy user “tiddy”, I will now upvote this so that my digital footprint will be permanently marked that I like “tiddy” content.
actually though, it’s insane that people think the law represents morality 🙃
I’m kind of the opinion that Harry Potter should have just ended with the deathly hallows book and 2 movies.
you drag out and milk an IP for too long and you just become star wars. and that isnt a compliment.
It seems like Rowling has been pushing for the series to be made because she doesn’t like the OG movie cast members for calling her out on her bigotry. Anytime Radcliffe or Watson tweet in support of humanity, Rowling gets all twisty-knickered and pouty because people still call them Harry Potter and Hermione.
But making something new comes with the risk of it not working, much easier to just keep milking the same thing infinitely.
But the line must go up!
If he really wants it to do badly, he should join the show and then get killed off two episodes in. Apparently this makes shows do pretty badly…
