• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    7 个月前

    Littering really pisses me off. I’ve seen kids throw trash on the ground when a trash can was 5 ft away. Infuriating.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 个月前

      You would fucking DIE if I took you back to 70s America. I truly love how offended people get by littering, I really do!

      Trash was piled on the side of every road, especially highways. People just chunked their McDonald’s bag when they were done, no big deal.

      I’ve hauled a couple hundred pounds of crap out the woods surrounding our hood. About gave me a stroke on the larger items. But I keep at it, and it seems to prevent the broken window effect. Hadn’t been out in 3-weeks, figured it would be awful. Nah. Only got a single grocery bag out, and half was my own beer cans! (I did drag an electric scooter out. Fuck me. Try that over 1/2 mile of deep sand.)

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 个月前

        I can’t tell if you’re minimizing the problem because you think it used to be worse. If so, that’s pretty uncool, unlike the cleanups which you’re doing. Those are cool.

        • shalafi@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          7 个月前

          I don’t think it used to be worse, it was way worse. I just find it amusing when people get bent over seeing someone toss trash out the window when it was a daily sight in the day.

          By all means, keep up the outrage! How do you think we got so much better? Shout out to the crying Indian ad. I cannot overstate how impactful that was. We only had 3 or 4 TV stations so it was up in everyone’s grill, whole country. Can’t get a message out like that today, too many outlets to cover. :(

      • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        7 个月前

        I worked on regular cleanups of a wetlands near my old apt and the bike path that ran by. We’d pull literally tons of crap out of there but over time it got less and less.

        I remember the 70s-80s and the trash but that doesn’t excuse littering even less now.

        • shalafi@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 个月前

          So, are you finding that it stays cleaner? I don’t want it to be my imagination, but I seem to be making an impact. And the rare people who see my crawl out of those woods always see me with trash bags.

          It’s private property, but I think of my self as the unofficial park ranger. Hopefully if anyone bitches I can point to my work. Also, I don’t want to lose the privilege of wandering around out there, figure if we don’t fuck it up, and in fact improve it, no one will complain.

          • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            7 个月前

            It never stays pristine but the worst of it took decades to accumulate. We found over a dozen tires, a safe, a beer keg, a beaten up rowboat, tons of old clothes piled up at an old campsite and of course the ever present cans and plastic bottles. We also worked on removing invasives. As time went on most of the trash was what got carried by the streams feeding it from drains. There was one time I found a car had been dumped off of the bike path and set on fire.

            Thanks for cleaning things up. It is very satisfying if a bit frustrating too. It is one of the few things in life where the result is obvious and clearly positive. I’m always picking trash up on hikes. Maybe the owner of the land would be willing to assist you by providing a place you can deposit the bags of trash and they could truck it out weekly or so. We did something similar with the state (it was public land) and had a storage shed with tools a local business let us use.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 个月前

      The government won’t do shit, and shouldn’t. Let’s say you and I are neighbors and I hate your guts. Guess where I’m going with this. All I need to do is get a letter out your trash and stuff it in couch.

      Without video evidence, there’s no evidence, not the kind local authorities are qualified to track, or have the time and money to track.

      • whaleross@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        7 个月前

        It all comes down to plausibility. A repeat offender that clearly doesn’t give a flying fuck or somebody that pays for trash collection services and has no reason to dump their garbage but they also have an asshole neighbour with a personal vendetta. Or it is building materials and that address just had work done Or they paid a contractor for work and cleaning up and the contractor dumped it on the forest. I’m sure the authorities won’t bother with it if it happens once but when it’s the second or third time with the same suspect, well then you actually have a case.

        • shalafi@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 个月前

          Yes! In some cases you could make a point strong enough to call in enforcement. What I had in mind was the random crap pictured in the post.

  • Squorlple@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 个月前

    Maybe they got to the dump and there was a big sign and chain across the dump saying “Closed on Thanksgiving” and they had never heard of a dump closed on Thanksgiving before and with tears in their eyes they drove off into the sunset looking for another place to put the garbage. They didn’t find one. ‘Til they came to a side road and off the side of the side road there was another fifteen foot cliff and at the bottom of the cliff was another pile of garbage. And they decided that one big pile is better than two little piles and rather than bring that one up they decided to throw theirs down.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    7 个月前

    I balk at the idea of paying to dump your junk in a landfill site. I pay myself but that silly system only leads to broke people having to dump elsewhere.

  • zephorah@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    7 个月前

    As the squeeze continues, the trash dumps will increase. It costs money to dump trash appropriately. Out of all the utilities, trash pickup will likely be sacrificed first. This isn’t an endorsement.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 个月前

      Meh. It’s got far better in my lifetime. (My anecdotes span 3 states and 40 years.) Used to be the residential trash guys were picky bastards, never knew what refuse they would refuse. Now they pop the lid, no car batteries, sulfuric acid or tires? Good to go.

      Used to be everything that didn’t fit in the can had to be burned or hauled. My guys will pick up about anything that fits in a 4’x 8’ space if you give a call. And they’ll do it 4 times a month. No charge.

      Not so environmentally great, but we have 2 trash haulers in competition. Company A piss you off? Company B will take over the next day.