The Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday announced it will begin the process of pulling prescription fluoride drops and tablets for children off the market. The supplements are usually given to kids at high risk for cavities.
The federal government and some state legislatures are increasingly drawing attention to what they claim are the risks associated with fluoride, a mineral that’s been used for decades in community water systems, toothpastes and mouth rinses to prevent tooth decay.
Dentists fiercely contest the notion that the harms of fluoride outweigh the benefits.
great. next it will be banned in toothpaste and mouth rinses.
This is such a fundamental change to get used to - some branches of government have been a meritocracy my entire life, doing their best to do the right thing, being careful to heed the best scientific advice, that my immediate reaction is to trust them. Then I remember we’re living in a time where the only qualification is personal loyalty and this particular circus is run by a clown
To be fair, the FDA was incompetent / hamstrung in many other areas before. The overriding purpose was to increase profit.
They, at least they are trying something new :D
So much for parents doing research and deciding if it’s right for them. Yet another bad faith argument.
Next up, Mewmaxxing czar and Orthotropics advisor Mike Mew
if you visit any of the reviews of FLOURIDE-free toothpaste, you can tell at least some of them have reported cavaties.
I once tried brushing my teeth with baking soda instead of toothpaste for a few weeks. From what I understand, they have about the same level of abrasiveness, so they should be about as good at scrubbing the gunk out of your teeth. The key difference is that toothpaste has fluoride in it. After a while I started having pain/irritation in my mouth and gums. It went away when I went back to toothpaste. So if anyone was looking for anecdotal evidence of fluoride being good for your teeth, there you go.
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This comment was removed incorrectly. What exactly is the “disinformation” here? This guy was literally just giving his interpretation of what happened to me, not making any assertions about fluoride and its efficacy in general. They even affirmed that it’s ANECDOTAL evidence right in their reply! Stop reading conspiracies into everything!
i used toothpaste with potassium nitrate and flouride thats useful for sensitivity, just gotta find the right one.
BAKING soda is pretty abrasive, according to the dental sub, the grain size is usually coarse, so it wears down yuor enamel. i used some whitening toothpaste that uses a combination of baking soda, hydrated silica, and hydrogen peroxide, i stopped after it i learned it damages the teeth, but also it was causing severe gum irritation and ulcers, and gave me angular chelitis.
I brush with Nano-hydroxyapitite for like 3 weeks and then do flouride for a couple weeks. I don’t think results happen that quickly.
which ones do you use? i originally had the OG nudge 10% but it causes chelitis so i stopped, i bought a different brand, i havnt used it yet. all 10%, and there were reports on some of these nHA have very sketchy concentration of nHa IN THEM. I MOSTLY use the ones with potassium nitrate, it helps with sensitivity.
X-Pur Remin. Its expensive but at least its tested and not sketchy. You have to be careful they are using a medical grade because the rod shaped stuff is apparently not tested for safety and is likely harmful when ingested.
tst gonna need to have a sacred daily fluoridation ritual for its devout followers.
I guess the fluorides are harmful to the worm lord.
Let’s go all out and replace them with meth. Instead of protecting teeth, we’ll eliminate them. Who needs a dentist when you have no teeth? Think of the savings!
Lisa needs braces.
Nice try, Big Soup! Paying a lot for medical treatment is the American Dream!
Haha! I’m actually from Big Stew, you fool. And I run a side gig with Big Applesauce.
You can’t eat stew without teeth!
When I said we should restrict children’s tablets this is not what I meant, worm.
RFK Jr. strikes again. I’ll never understand why people like him can’t grasp the idea that the difference between medicine and poison is often dosage.
The amount of fluoride in these tablets is nowhere near unsafe levels. It’s not even close.
Dude took his grandkids swimming in a sewage infested waterway… I mean, you expect someone like that to have even the loosest grasp of anything resembling nuance?
I really hope an amoeba finishes what the worm started.
That poor worm clearly starved to death
Water isn’t warm enough for them yet
Because understanding that would mean his heroin addiction was his own fault, not the heroin’s fault.
He literally doesn’t believe in germ theory.
And I don’t mean ‘literally’ as in ‘figuratively’. He genuinely doesn’t believe in the most basic element of modern health and medicine.
You can’t expect him to then grasp something as nuanced as dosage.
This is all so fucking stupid!
Flouride provides unarguable protection from cavities. To do so it needs to come into contact with teeth.
Flouride also (very likely) has brain health implications. So you should not swallow it.
Obvious solution! : what every dentist already does, swish some flouride or hold it against your teeth, then spit it all out.
Our politicians who want to put it in, and keep it in the water can go right to hell for brain poisoning our youth.
It has brain health implications when ingested at levels way above the standard levels used in virtually all water systems in the United States. Stop spreading bullshit. The only evidence of negative health effects from fluoride is based on studies where people were exposed to over 2x the levels of fluoride in municipal water
2x is not very much wiggle room for something that causes neurological impairment. Countries that do not fluoridate their water have seen the same cavity decline as the countries that do, most likely due to education about good dental hygiene.
And pretty much every study to this effect is correlative. No sane doctor or scientist is going to make kids OD on flouride to see if they go stupid or not.
“Measurable” is the beast here. IQ typically has to drop 20 - 30 points on average to be measurable. So it’s probable that the current Flouride levels of municipal water are dropping IQs by say 10 points on average.
On a population level, I believe they have found that the 2x current fluoridated water levels that OC mentions cause a 1 point drop in IQ. This is huge on a population level.
Flouridated water in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the US, and many, many more places is 150% SAFE to drink. Curiousaur is just a nutjob.
Safe and makes you 2 - 5% stupider are different things. I never claimed it’s unsafe.
I am unsure about the other countries, but US tapwater (even well water) is very likely unsafe to drink unfiltered in many areas.
e.g. PFAS contamination is prolific and remediation is only beginning — very few chemicals are monitored or are able to be monitored.
https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/pfas_contamination/map/
They try to make Americans weak, sick, and dead on all fronts. As of the US government was under control of a hostile country.
Don’t forget stupider
If Trump is a Russian sabatour he’s doing a fantastic job.
Cool, then regulate sugar in industrial food and beverage.
Regulate it harshly these fuckers need to be sent to the gulag
Regulations?! In trump’s America?! No way. It costs too much for shareholders
Funny. We’re soon going to see how much shareholders like an environment without regulation… like a working SEC.
Next up: vitamin c tablets. We won’t stop until scurvy is in full come back!
Someone here recently said RFK is literally just Pestilence incarnate, and I don’t think they are wrong. The dude is the Randall Flagg of diseases. Just waiting for his actual bugchaser arc. Then he’ll plan a mass gathering and dissolve like Gravemind into deadly spores.
I bet C will stay forever because some successful marketing campaign convinced people it’s a natural remedy against all types of colds and flu, despite being worthless for that cause. Science ain’t got nothing on a good commercial.
if you have basically any access to fresh food you don’t need to take vitamin C, even half a small potato will give you an entire days worth of of vitamin C and anything more than that will be peed out anyway. Unless you ban all fresh food people will be getting enough vitamin C, this isn’t a 1600s pirate ship, no one needs to supplement it, the supplements are a pure cash grab
I don’t know. You can’t overdose on Vitamin C. Rubes don’t like a cure-all unless it’s really bad for you. Vitamin A is the new panacea.
I am gonna be so pissed if that worm-infested moron effects my skin care regimen. Vit C and Vit A are very big for me.
Also I don’t wanna pay more for it because people started to freakin EAT skin serums…
You can overdose on Vitamin C, it just takes way more than for fat soluble vitamins and minerals (also not usually fatal). Two 500mg tablets per day has shown a strong increase in long term kidney stone formation. One whole bottle (10g) in a day is “almost certain severe diarrhea within hours; transient hyper-oxaluria, especially risky for people with renal issues. “
Thanks! I did not know that.
Vitamin C supplements are mostly bullshit anyway. Almost nobody needs them.
Time to stock up on fluoride I guess….
I beat the rush and stocked up in December, and I hate that that purchase is already feeling justified. One option to keep in mind as well is that tea is relatively good natural source of fluoride. So if things get bad enough, becoming an unsweetened tea-drinker might help.
Its weird hearing americans have to specify ‘un-sweetened’ tea as if its not the norm
I don’t order tea often, but we would also have to specify if we want it hot. I guess I always thought of the options as sweet/unsweet iced tea, or probably nothing because I’d be surprised if they have some earl grey back there.
Yeah, I agree it’s weird. As an American who grew up in an area where sweetened tea wasn’t the norm, I hate having to specify. But I also don’t have any faith left in my fellow countrymen, and feel like I have to make it clear for them.
Is there actually a need to? Does ingested fluoride do anything that toothpaste fluoride doesn’t do?
