Air Force Dumb
Qatar is gifting Trump a $400 million luxury 747 to serve as a temporary Air Force One, but experts warn that retrofitting it to meet presidential security standards could take years, cost hundreds of millions more, and risk national security due to potential embedded surveillance.
The current VC-25s aren’t just repainted 747s. They’re a pair of flying fortresses that must be capable of allowing the president to run the country, survive wartime conditions (even nuclear), and be totally secure from outside influence or intrusion. While the precise details of the current airframe are a tightly guarded secret, some details are included on government fact sheets or have been revealed in various media reports. For a start, it must have an in-flight refueling capability so the president can go anywhere in the world and stay up as long as needed. Retrofitting this to an existing 747 would be very expensive, as the feds would need to strengthen portions of the hull to handle the refueling system and reconfigure the fuel tanks to handle trim issues.
Then there’s the hull, which is known to be armored, and the windows are also thicker than you’d find on a normal flight. The government would also need to build in weapons systems like the chaff rockets used against radar-guided missiles, flares against heat seekers, and AN/ALQ-204 Matador Infrared Countermeasure systems, or similar to try and confuse incoming missiles. Next up, the engines and electrical systems would have to be replaced. The electronics in the current VC-25s are hardened as much as possible against an electromagnetic pulse that would be generated by a nuclear detonation. There are also claims that the aircraft have extra shielding in the engines to help against missile fragments should a physical attack happen.
Next up are communications. Air Force One has air-to-ground, air-to-air, and satellite comms systems that are thought to be the equal of what’s in the White House. There are at least two separate internal phone systems - one open and the other highly secure - that would need to be installed and checked as well. Then there are incidentals. Contrary to what films will tell you, there is no escape capsule on the current Air Force One, nor a rear parachute ramp, but there is a medical suite with emergency equipment and space for a physician which would already need to be installed, as well as a secured cargo area designed to prevent tampering or unauthorized access. As for the threat of embedded surveillance devices, Richard Aboulafia, managing director of aircraft consultancy AeroDynamic Advisory, said: “You’d have to take it apart piece by piece to stop a professional operator putting in lots of equipment to confuse things, like spare sensors and wiring.”
“It wouldn’t be in the air before 2030 at the earliest, long after he’s left office and probably later than the existing planned replacements,” said Aboulafia. “It makes no sense on any level, except that he wants a free 747 for himself. Nothing else makes any sense.”
“What’s sort of annoying about the whole thing is I’m not sure what’s wrong with the current Air Force One,” Aboulafia said. “Maybe if they gave it a gold makeover, he’d like it more.”
My first thought was ‘trojan horse’. Give a gift that you’ve laced with taps, traps, and software backdoors that you know your enemy won’t be able to refuse.
Purely from a national security perspective, this is a horrible fucking idea. Also from a financial perspective, this is a horrible fucking idea. Right now you have at least two fully functional AF1s that are already equipped with the property gear and take the same parts. Now you want to completely retrofit a jet from a foreign adversary that will have separate parts and maintenance requirements from the other AF1s.
Talk about asking for a mistake to happen.
Man, I never thought I would live to see the day when the president of the United States faced a literal Trojan horse situation! Usually the only “Trojan horses” our leaders faced were metaphorical. Like, maybe a trade deal or alliance would seemed like a great opportunity at the time, but we would end up worse off in the long run. Or a computer virus that had a propagation method reminiscent of the tale of the Trojan War. That sort of thing. A metaphorical Trojan horse.
But this? This is a literal Trojan horse! Someone is literally offering the president a giant big dumb opulent PHYSICAL OBJECT, and it threatens the security of the nation. This is a materially direct 1:1 reenactment of the the the Greeks giving the Trojans the famous Trojan Horse.
Irony is dead.
My first thought was “either Hollywood lied to me (SHOCKING) or the current 747 has a series of defenses, flares, electronic countermeasures, and what not that this new plane doesn’t have”.
The only thing Hollywood and the video game industry seems to have lied to us about is the presence of an escape pod lol. Everything else is probably mostly correct or even understated.
Doesn’t that make it a perfect fit for Trump?
Exactly, he’s already a walking security disaster.
I don’t care. If the plane falls out of the sky, will that really affect me?
It’s not like this administration cares about secret information anyway. Hegseth
Good. Idiot.
This is yet another reason why the president shouldn’t be a king; he shouldn’t be able to make decisions that influence his own security negatively.
The head of his security should simply say “oh fucking hell’s no” and that’d be it. This plane could be sabotaged in a million damn near impossible to detect ways. It could be bugged in a million undetectable ways, it’s a security nightmare.
If he’d still wanted a flying palace, it’d be way, way cheaper to build one from scratch and be safe and trustworthy than to test, check, and retrofit this one.
His head of secut should be able to override his decisions when it comes to his safety
Then again, this is Cheetos USA now, so I’d say please go for it. Let quatar spy and learn all the US’s secrets and then when they’re done with the useful idiot, let them execute him by crashing his plane remotely. The world, the US, it’ll all be a better place without him and he’ll be doing exactly what he wants, he’s just too dumb to keep himself alive
Maybe he’ll die? please?
Not sure who would want to kill him. Assad? But he’s already deposed. Hamas or Jordan could probably get intel from the Saudis, but lack firepower.
Russia and China are celebrating President Idiot, definitely don’t want to replace him with somebody competent.
Not sure who would want to kill him.
Any sane US resident?
Yeah but then a US Made Air Force One would have better odds than a Saudi one, no?
I mean the entire Trump and Republican administration is a security disaster. What’s one more complete breakdown in national security at this point? Just cutting out the middleman with messaging apps on insecure devices.
The real question is “what news is trump trying to bury with this 747 crap”
I’m not sure he’s smart enough to try that tactic.
That’s literally his only tactic, he does it constantly. How entire existence is a distraction for the oligarchy.
Very true. The question then I, suppose is, did someone on his staff think of it for him. Lol.
The current Air Force One uses fossil fuels. That’s a huge issue.
And this one doesn’t? I don’t know of a plane they doesn’t use fossil fuels.
Yes. I was responding to the quote in the article that said they didn’t know what was wrong with AF1
It contributes to the climate catastrophe. We need to dismantle all these GHG emitting infrastructure.
Trumps heard “free” and “jet” so he said yes. No complex thoughts will ever enter his mind about this transaction. He gets a jet and that is all that matters to him.
I agree 100. When Trump acts this way everyone thinks he’s playing 5d chess. No. It is a grown manchild wanting a sky palace and doesn’t care that his mommy is telling him no. He just wants it. Meanwhile nobody can imagine that anyone would rationally act this way so it must be part of some plan. When you just take Trump and musk and all these aassholes for what they do and say you won’t need to come up with excuses. Yes. We really did vote this guy in.
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This is the stupidest timeline. We miss you Harambe
Perhaps Harambe was saving us from an even darker timeline.
Nice dream
He’s living the dream with the quadriscut
Thank you for guiding me to the quadriscuit.
As for the threat of embedded surveillance devices, Richard Aboulafia, managing director of aircraft consultancy AeroDynamic Advisory, said: “You’d have to take it apart piece by piece to stop a professional operator putting in lots of equipment to confuse things, like spare sensors and wiring.”
What if the Qataris or Russia install a kill switch? Every time the president flies, it’s by the good grace of some foreign overlord. All that to fly in a plane that looks like some kitsch hotel…
That was my first thought… please have a kill switch! A hypersensitive one.
Remember the button they had to keep pressing in LOST? That.