• DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    Yesterday, I finally talked my parents into canceling MS356 and switching to LibreOffice and Thunderbird.

    Now, the excessive subscription fees for MS365 goes to them instead.

    If Microsoft keeps this up, I might even manage to persuade them to switch to Linux at some point.

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    scream in John Malkovich’s voice:

    “FUCK MICROSOFT”

    On the flip side, please keep digging yourself in a hole, Microsoft. More incentive to join Linux for us users.

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      I don’t trust any of these “giving pledges” upon death. In name, their fortunes will pass on to nonprofits. Nonprofits controlled by their family members, which comes down to letting them keep their inheritances tax-free. This even happens in Europe.

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        Now now, it’s not like they get the whole inheritance. It’s more like they get cushy overpaid non-work jobs to manage or consult for the non-profit.

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          its “charity” was only a front for him doing this, pure laundering methods. he was on an AMA on reddit last decade i did try to quesiton him on that same thing, but AMA doesnt like to allow discussion of them quesitoning the AMA hosts in anyway.

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        Yup it’s mostly bullshit. Someone, somewhere might benefit, but certainly not any of the people within two thousands miles of where the rich guy lived. Which is still better than nothing, but Bill Gates could end homelessness in America immediately if he chose to do so. (I’m not saying it would be easy or fast, just that he has the money to make it happen.) He could make ALL COLLEGE FREE for students. Musk could have too, likely for less than he spent on Twitter.

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          what he was doing overseas was virtue signalling, to disguies his charities, so nobody would go looking into it, that is actually laundering money.

          him lobbying the covid vaccine to be instantly pantent by the US was sketchy asf. its to ensure countries like african and asian ones, south america cant make deratives of the vaccine.

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        If old rich fucks had giving in their hearts, they would want to see some good shit done with the fruits of their “labor” (lol) while they are alive.

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      He said that he was giving away 99%+ 30 years ago, it’s just publicity stunts, or as Kyrgizon explains below they “give” things to nonprofits that they control. Why? They no longer pay taxes. So nice!

      Bill gates is another billionaire mentally ill evil crap person, no different than elon or zuckenberg etc.

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          $54Bn To the “Gates and Melinda” fund.

          Guess who are in control of it, even you might figure it out.

          Otherwise, is the boot juice good today?

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            They didn’t donate all of that to that fund. They’ve donated hundreds of millions/billions to many other charities and causes that they don’t run. The money that they do donate to that fund does get used to help humanity. If you’re going to claim that it just goes back to line their own pockets, can you provide evidence of this?

            Oh and what a creative way to use one of the most uncreative low-iq commie insults!

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              They “donated” 54 billion dollars to the gates & melissa fund.

              The other “donations” are coming with so many strings attached people do not want them. Hey let me “donate” to your researh! I just gotta need the IP of anything that comes from it…

              Zuckenberg also does this.

              For the low quality meme, well you are out here “protecting” an evil person. For free too.

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                Lol facts > downvotes.

                Interesting that there are billionaire bootlickers on Lemmy 🤷🏼‍♀️.

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        hes a billionaire, with a veneer of “philantrophy”, which means hes not genuine. there were plenty of ytbers that are like this had a veneer of progressivism, while turning hard right in the end.

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          Exactly.

          They all have PR firms, we know that because elon bought in on his own PR and booted his in 2018 (IIRC).

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      hes just trying to “clean up his image” of being a ruthless businessman in the 80s and 90s, he still is, even his foundation is questionable, remember the vaccines, he lobbied it so the poorer countries are forced to buy the usa/western versions, and cant make similar ones. warren isnt a saint either, but i dint hear much negative things about yet.

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    I wish I had fuck you money. I’d use it to bankroll the development of LibreOffice and all the other alternatives to MS365 and get them integrated. Then I’d start a massive training program to teach people how to use them.

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    Bootstraps, folks! Microsoft is basically BEGGING you to try Linux, and it’s now easier than ever - even easier than installing Windows!

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    Might as well pay up, what are you going to do learn something slightly different?

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      I thought from the headline that it was just a downgrade to Business Standard, no this is to Business Basic! That’s a huge yikes, it’s so much harder to be productive in those web versions.

      I honestly would not be surprised if users work out installing LibreOffice et al. so they can still have a desktop app experience because of this move.

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        I wonder if the amount of SharePoint storage will be impacted by such a license chance too. One of my clients at work will be very unhappy with these changes especially if it means they have to buy more SharePoint storage

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    Micropenis still thinking they can use their “monopoly” to their advantage is cute. Js giving Linux and other competitors a higher marketshare for free

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    But can you also get all the enterprise features they have with Linux? Like, backups, mobile device management, identity and access management, MFA? All integrated tightly and easily deployable from a portal?

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        That’s the thing, I wish we could just switch all enterprises to Linux, but Microsoft developed a huge ecosystem that really does have good features. Unless something comparable comes up in the Linux world, I don’t see Europe becoming independent of Microsoft any time soon

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    Google offers workspace for free to nonprofits, Including device management. No one, I know in nonprofits even fucks with Microsoft because they’re so ridiculous. Now it’ll be even less people.

    Google now has the market cornered because they aren’t as greedy.

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      Hey remember when Google used to have a motto, “Don’t be evil”?

      Used to.

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        Yes, but it’s essentially the difference between the greed of an ancient red wyrm, (Microsoft) and an adolescent white wyrm. (Alphabet)

        The white guy is almost a cutie next to the red one. They’re still both chromatic dragons, and therefore evil. One is just leaning more towards lawful evil, and the other seems to have embraced chaotic evil

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      Google now has the market cornered because they aren’t as greedy.

      honestly cant tell if this is satire. my university is currently purging google storage as fast as we can because they altered the licening once we were fully invested. and that was before they started screwing around with licensing language around their Ai. the google mdm is an absolute joke. not even my orgs own google team reccomends it and their jobs depend on google being used. i’d use the vmware nightmare formerly known as airwatch over google mdm.

      google is exactly this greedy.

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      I don’t know where you’re based, but I work in a international NGO and the majority are in the MS ecosystem. Same with many midsized NGOs in Sweden.

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      This article clearly states that this non-profit switched to MS specifically because Google changed their non-profit plans to be paid.

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      I’ve read horror stories of an employee doing something on their own personal account and Google locking out the whole business. Hopefully they fixed that idea because it would sink business uptake.

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        I made accounts for my board of directors, two of them got “permanently suspended” because of “violating the TOS” before they even logged in. Had to delete and recreate them. So it’s not perfect, but for free, I do manage.

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      Google offered Workspace free to individuals. I set that up and used it for my family, and then BAM! After a lomg time using it, they removed the free plan, once we were using it for logins for a bunch of sites and for our emails. Went from free to $50 per month. It took a LOT of effort to get my family off of that. Never again.

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    Actually I think this isn’t exactly news. The university I go to, which is technically a foundation, had MS365 pulled last year IIRC and sent us all scrambling to find alternatives.

    It didn’t bother me too much because I had already fully transitioned to LibreOffice, but my classmates were furious because they didn’t want to lose the “seamless online editing experience”. I told them to either use LibreOffice or move to Google Docs, but they didn’t like the idea and most (if not all) of them purchased MS365 subs. I unfortunately had to budge and get one too, because we needed to get some work done ASAP. I can’t wait until I graduate (should be soon-ish?) to stop paying for that crap.

    But yeah. IIRC they started by reducing the amount of storage the university got, meaning they had to quickly delete data from past classes (fortunately I managed to back up quite a bit), and then one day they suddenly sent everyone an email saying “you don’t have access to MS365 anymore lol get fucked”

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      we used google docs alot during my final years in college, why aare they so resistant, its free. libreoffice i havnt touched yet.

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        Depending on what you’re using it for, the gsuite office alternatives are incredibly feature-sparse. Last I checked, a lot of essential features such as accessibility checking and scripting either have nightmarish implementation, or require third-party addons. It also requires an internet connection and can’t save in-progress documents to your local storage.

        Honestly the only leg up over the others that I think the GSuite really has is the seamless collaboration features.

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      The university having M365 and the students having M365 are not the same thing. Students don’t subscribe to M365 Business because they need word or excel. Students would subscribe to M365 Family or Personal, or just buy office outright. Students get a huge discount too.