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    5 months ago

    Isn’t it weird how “genuine leftists” always seem to have unbounded love for a state capitalist nation which produces hundreds of billionaires? Maybe that’s what the others are shocked about.

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      Isn’t it weird how liberals have unbounded love for a state capitalist nation which produces hundreds of billionares?

      Lol what a weird critique to choose

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        Sorry, which liberals are pretending to be economically left while simping for an openly capitalist nation? I thought you guys hated liberals specifically because they aren’t leftists, suddenly they are leftists and hypocrites about capitalism?

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            Because they understand the mathematics of FPTP voting, a differentiation such that they don’t make the same choices than you, which you deliberately choose to interpret as acting against your ideals.

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              They agree with the mathematics, otherwise they’d be out protesting like everyone else already is

              “OH noooooo…”

              “…Anyway.”

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                  Thank god those other civil rights protests didn’t happen under FPTP, otherwise they’d never have gotten anything done.

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        Tu quoque

        Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwiː/;[1] Latin for ‘you also’) is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent’s argument by attacking the opponent’s own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, so that the opponent is hypocritical. This specious reasoning is a special type of ad hominem attack. The Oxford English Dictionary cites John Cooke’s 1614 stage play The Cittie Gallant as the earliest known use of the term in the English language.[1]

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    Oh, good, they’re not a tankie, they’re just a Soviet simp who thinks Anti-Imperialism™ is justification for genocide and ethnic cleansing, and opposes any anti-fascist candidate that’s not 100% in-line with their ideology. Definitely a big practical difference there, glad I was corrected.

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      Oh, good, they’re not a lib, they’re just an Israeli simp who thinks Pro-Imperialismtm is justification for genocide and ethnic cleansing, and opposes any anti-fascist that’s protesting against the genocide i’m ok with (and not the genocide I’m not ok with).

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        Here I thought being for the suspension of ALL aid to Israel, not just for the ongoing genocide but for being an apartheid ethnostate, might have implied that I was anti-Israel, but here I learn that I’m an Israeli simp. How fascinating!

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          “I’m in support of all the most progressive and leftist ideals, but they are sadly not practical so anyone pushing for them must be treated as controlled opposition”

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            Yes, because as we all know, pushing for Trump to win a presidential election is DEFINITELY in support of progressive and leftist ideals!

            I apologize for being a Bernie voter, I guess.

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                Pushing for progressive ideals =! Pushing for Trump to win

                I’m pushing for progressive ideals. The difference is, I’m not doing it while saying that it’s okay not to vote for the anti-fascist candidate if you feel really strongly that fascism winning is preferable to Teach The Dems A Lesson™ or Show Your Moral Fortitude™.

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                  I’m not saying it’s OK not to vote, I’m saying expecting people to get on board with democrats when they have 5 months to correct their shit is dumb.

                  Make your decision when the cards have been played