that’s like 3 layers of scam: church, manliness and absurd levels
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Georgetown Texas. No wonder
Texas, you say
Watching gay porn is twice as manly as watching straight porn.
I’m actually double straight because I was straight when I was supposedly a guy and now I’m a woman and still straight. checkmate, low T beta cucks bad to the bone guitar riff
Nothing gayer than having sex with women.
- various right winged influencers
sounds like a porno theme.
Nothing more manly and confident than having to constantly validate your manlyness
So, all these “manly” men need a fluffer to make them more “manly”?
I find the obsession with being super manly that some types have to be highly suspicious. Seems they are either very insecure or seeking manliness out of a closeted gay urge. Because it’s just not the kind of thing you need to go get help with. Performant manliness is still a performance.
Always fun witnessing another round of people arguing over whose church is dumber.
It’s a hoot. These Ultra Incels think the Orthodox Church is going to hand them a submissive woman. Sounds like their new church is a sausage fest up in there.
probably thier excuse to turn each other on.
He looks like he would be handy on a trip through Ravenholm.
If you have to be told how to be “manly” then you
probablydefinitely aren’t whatever the fuck you even think “manly” is.So fragile, so scared. They are so terrified of being perceived as lesser men that they resort to this crap. It’s just that you could only feel sorry for them… if they didn’t suck, that is.
Ivan bros?
While all of you meme and joke and minimize the threat, a rising wave of disaffected boys has grown up under the most toxic of social environments and still NONE of you take this seriously.
When you see the world in ten years time you will kick yourselves for doing nothing to stop it now in its infancy
Stop what? Stop it how? Suddenly make every parent in the US loving, compassionate, and effective at raising their children? Or maybe we could just fix the economy? One of those is bound to work, easy!
There is no easy solution and the fact your dismissive and snarky reply is so upvoted is kind of proof that there is no fixing the situation anymore
The hard solution is to first deplatform their demagogues but since they make their media platforms ridiculous money, it isn’t changing
There’s also a significant possibility we simply won’t be having real elections in America anymore so the chance to get progressive people in office to curb this is over
At this point, anything start rolling, it’s already too late to stop it. Nothing we can do but brace for the worst.
The answer is violence and guns.
I have no counter argument to this
You got all mad for people posting no real solution and when given the chance, offered no real solution
I literally gave the solution in the comment you replied to
I’m sure you think you did
But how can I deplatform the demagogues? It seems impossible. What you proposed sounds nearly as unattainable as the snarky “Suddenly make every parent in the US loving, compassionate, and effective at raising their children”.
I’m not in charge of the demagogues platforms. The platforms have no need to respond to social protests since the demagogues make them money. The majority of moderate people will not ever care enough to stop using a platform that supports evil. Tons of people still use facebook even when they KNOW about all those scandals, because they feel like it’s just not a big problem, and ultimately because they just like using facebook.
Your proposed solution just feels a lot like the how to draw an owl meme.
If deplatforming and political action by the ruling class are the main methods to stop this crisis, then none of us had any power to do anything in the first place
It’s no wonder no one takes this seriously: the epidemic of disaffected young men is only a symptom of greater societal issues and can’t effectively be addressed on its own. That’s also what I was getting at with my comment
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A younger brother of mine just baptized into an Orthodox church nearby. Is this the same thing?
There’s several. I don’t know if the Greek Orthodox are doing the same machoism, but they’re related
No
If your younger brother watches a lot of right wing rabbithole type content it’s entirely possible that he’s on the same pipeline, yes.
The Russian Orthodox are in schism from most other Orthodox. You’ll need to get more information to get an answer to that question.
Russian Orthodoxy was established from it’s foundation as a fake religion that exists to keep political power in Moscow. This is very different from other Orthodox.
Sort if like Chruch of England schism
Not really. That was primarily because the king of England at the time (Henry VIII) wanted the freedom to divorce his wives and take new ones repeatedly - he literally asked the pope to annul his marriage and the pope told him no.
Well, he took that personally.
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The roots were more substantial. The political leadership in Moscow took offense when their religious leaders in Kiev (Kiev was the religious capital of their brand of Orthodoxy) went to the Council of Florence and agreed to union with the Catholic Church. Corrupt secular leadership in Moscow feared accountability to anyone so they deposed the Metropolitan (a type of bishop) of Kiev and then ordered the bishops of Moscow to elect their own patriarch. That’s how it got started. And the Russian Orthodox are insane. Many go so far as to say that the Catholic Church has no valid sacraments at all. They frequently get in the way of restoration of union between Rome and other Eastern Orthodox but I feel like we’ve hit a break point where others in the east have had enough. It is time to say “NO” to Moscow. Your political organization masquerading as a religion has done enough harm. Go to the pits of hell where you belong.
I, for one, would like to congratulate whoever conceived this psy-op to get conservatives to move from Texas to Russia. Inspired stuff.
IF you can be shamed into going a Russian church to be manly, you are headed in the opposite direction from the path to manliness - you become a pussy who can only follow.
I didn’t come here for MORE toxic masculinity and gender shaming. Sort your shit out.
Why does random lemmy user care what you came here for?
So then it’s womanly to follow? Sounds sexist and lame to me.
Very interesting, but also very lazy reporting. They didn’t ask Ukrainian-American Orthodox for example what they think. Ciril’s “holy war” screetches are insane, when Ukraine is also an Orthodox country.
There are thousands upon thousands of Orthodox Christians in the US, yet the only non-Russian-aligned perspective in the whole article is this:
Elissa Bjeletich Davis, a former Protestant who now belongs to the Greek Orthodox Church in Austin, is a Sunday school teacher and has her own podcast. She says many converts belong to “the anti-woke crowd” and sometimes have strange ideas about their new faith - especially those in the Russian Church. “They see it as a military, rigid, disciplinary, masculine, authoritarian religion,” Elissa says. “It’s kind of funny. It’s almost as if the old American Puritans and their craziness is resurfacing.”
(RIP Elissa’s inbox btw)
It’s annoying to see the crazies monopolize the report. This is also American Orthodoxy:
