React Native’s new architecture is not that bad.
You basically just got a single lightweight JavaScript thread that runs your update loop around which components should be rendered and updated, but then all the components are bound directly to underlying C++ native components.
I would still expect the start menu to be aiming for zero dependencies and as fast a start as humanly possible, but it’s not that crazy compared to something like Electron (which itself is not as inherently bad as most people make it out to be).
The real problem with slow web apps has less to do with the architecture of the apps, and more to do with them letting developers build apps really quickly and easily, meaning that you often have apps built by developers who don’t entirely know what they’re doing, and they introduce tons of inefficiencies like double rendering etc.
This is partly to do with the start menu trying to act like a search engine. Its frustrating when you are looking for a document or application and it searches the web.
Microsoft why can we not turn this off!
You can just disable web search through the settings app now.
You can. I’ve had it off for years. It just needs a registry update, and persists across updates.
And people say Linux is not user-friendly
I mean… KDE can do it just fine.
It’s simple, really.
If the first results are a web search, you wouldn’t notice how terrible the local search indexing is.
I legitimately cannot believe how comically powerful medium level hardware has become yet the windows user experience is so much shittier than it was almost 20 years ago. I remember school machines struggling less to power up on 1gb ram and a one core machine that my gaming rig does sometimes. Windows is such a fucking waste of computing power.
I have it turned off. But maybe that option is not available outside of EU? I don’t know.
There’s a few ways to turn it off, but they require registry editing or using the Group Policy editor if you have a Pro license
https://www.ghacks.net/2021/11/26/how-to-turn-off-search-the-web-results-in-windows-11/
Best thing about Windows 11 is that my hardware doesn’t support it
It’s not that bad by default, it just gives it a disadvantage in terms of performance, but if you care about it you can still make it run smooth and be not-that-heavy. Microsoft just doesn’t.
Yep it’s pretty bad…
Is right click menu one too? After boot, it always takes like 5 seconds for it to show up, recurring times it takes <1 second (not instant). I run last gen ryzen somethingsomethingXD and 4070 so my PC can definitely run a context menu.
On windows 11 or windows 10?
The <win10 context menu is old and poorly designed. Each app that declares itself on the right click menu gets to hold up the entire menu for like 3 seconds each. So if you have one poorly designed app that can appear on that list your right click menu will be super slow. Try to go through the right click menu and disable each app that appears one by one until you find the culprit.
Windows has this official tool, if you go to the explorer tab and find …/contextMenuHandlers section you can easily disable them one by one but i haven’t used it personally.
Win11 tried to fix this and moved to a different model but in doing so made the first level right click menu functionally useless.
Win11. I remember it being fine in Win10, though I didn’t have that many applications there, now I should have even less though.
Maybe I’ll look at what I have there now, in case I indeed have a misbehaving app.
Microsoft couldn’t think about this while they were developing the OS, no?
I’ll take Business majors making technical decisions for 400, Alex.
Sorry that’s 500…
Gosh, after all the hacks I do to Windows I often forget how terrible the experience is for all my users our there raw dogging it. 🪦
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Yes, the most popular OS on the planets used by the most people on a daily basis, also has a high number of memes about it. Shocking. What information you’ve gleaned.
the most popular OS
It’s barely the second most popular OS, after Android. iOS is pretty close behind it. And yet the amount of complaints Windows gets seems to be far higher than that of Android.
Fair point, I would argue that it’s not e entirely fair to compare a mobile OS that basically eschews backwards compatibility, for a desktop OS that can still run 30 year old applications, but it’s not entirely unfair either, they’re still both OSes and lots of the complaints have nothing to do with the burden of legacy support.
a mobile OS that basically eschews backwards compatibility
I have an app built for Android 4 running on my Android 15 device. It looks ugly but it works. Of course other apps will not be so lucky, but some backwards compat is absolutely there.
a desktop OS that can still run 30 year old applications
Not really, Microsoft is steadily breaking old stuff. For example lot of 10-15 year old software that was doing something hardware-related would be broken now due to driver signing changes/restrictions (e.g. WinRing0 things).
Does it still run 30 year old apps? I was under the impression that a lot of DOS and Windows software from the 1990s ran better under Wine than on Windows.
This is true, especially for games. But for some reason, even though some compatibility features have been removed from windows, others still remain. Hell, if you look into System32, you can still find the dialer app from windows 95 (still with its original icon, btw!), or Windows Vista’s “bubbles” screensaver, and they still run.
Edit: this is not a windows praise, it’s a critique. Those parts are dead weight, and windows isn’t even that good at offering compatibility for old software
Being the single OS that has had a chokehold on the prebuilt computer industry for ages doesn’t mean it’s popular. It’s also used in tons of workplaces where people don’t have a choice. High number doesn’t automatically correlate to “popular.”
I didn’t mean like people’s choice popular, I just meant most used. The more something is used the more memes you’ll see about it’s issues.
Yeah, that makes more sense. More users automatically means there will statistically be more complaints due to sheer numbers.
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Oh I don’t think it remotely is. I just find it irritating that someone sees lots of complaints about the most used thing and takes that as an indication that it’s bad, and ignores the indication that it’s not (it being the most used thing).
Lots of complaints about something popular literally means nothing on its own. The content of those complaints have validity, but there’s nothing to learn from their metadata.
Actually lots of complaints has meaning. It means lots of people have problems with it. It doesn’t mean anything else but this.
Yes. But if you have many complaints from MANY MANY users, it may not mean anything serious, it could still mean a very small fraction have problems. Absolute number means very little without context. That’s the purpose of the previous comment. Please note how it doesn’t say anything about qualities of Windows.
The percentage of users complaining is the same thing. If your software has 100 users that means 1 complaint, if your software has 1,000,000 users that means 10,000 complaints, for the exact same software.
Same here. I can’t figure out why anyone uses based on what I read.
no fucking way
i use win 11 and i can’t remember the last time i used the start button. there is no need.
And yet it’s somehow less awful than the Windows 10 start menu. Is it still improvement if you put the bar under the floor yourself?
Is it? Honestly I don’t care about it anymore, I’ve been opening everything from task bar icons and search for ages now.
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I’m thinking that maybe I should upgrade my old Win 10 Pro laptop to Windows 11 Pro, “just in case”, instead of going full Linux everywhere.
And then I read shite like this.
You’re not making it easy for me Microsoft.
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Linux everywhere and then Windows VM labeled “Shitty Spyware Do Not Open”
Thats unironically based
“great work” 🤭
“I have deemed my own work to be ‘great’ and that’s the only professional feedback I take”
So that’s why it is so freaking slow! 💩🤡💩🤡
