• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    So I could have a usable machine at work? Good. I am forced to upgrade from win7 to win11 in the lab, and current win11 crap did not appeal to me at all. And it has WSL, so at least it can actually be used for work.

  • yesman@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Windows users are a revenue stream, not customers. M$ views it’s users as a sort of raw material that can be processed with dark patterns for ads and subscriptions. And like everything else, Americans are treated with the most disrespect and coercion.

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    6 months ago

    Am i missing something? If i had edge, store and bing forced down my throat my win11 install wouldve been long gone, but imo thst stuff was already removable before?

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      6 months ago

      From what I’ve gathered here and elsewhere they never really went full throttle on all that stuff for most of us here in the EU.

      Now don’t get me wrong, W11 is utter shite, and I had to essentially build a new computer from scratch to even get it running properly, but I still haven’t seen any ads or any other bullshit like that.

      This is exactly why my old computer is merrily running Mint, and it likes it.

      Edit: If it wasn’t for the fact that I happen to primarily use Cinema 4D for work I wouldn’t even have bothered, probably. Relearning 20+ years of software flow for the other options seemed silly at the time, but I would’ve reconsidered had I known what a mess W11 would become for me and in general.

      • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        I love mint on my old laptop (which I’m using right now) I just wish it was more compatable with newer hardware as neither it nor ubuntu work properly on my new desktop build so I’m stuck on ghost spectre instead.

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        6 months ago

        I think GDPR and related laws, really tempered what Microsoft did to the whole of the European region. They didn’t want to deal with it, so they made as much as they could, opt-in. As opposed to the north american policies of either opt-out, or forced-on.

        IDK. I don’t work at Microsoft, I’m just guessing. 🙃

  • BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz
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    6 months ago

    Europeans have the Freedom to Uninstall SPYWARE? LoL COMMIES here in America we have TRUE FREEDOM of being FORCE FED SPYWARE with NO Other options!

    • discount_door_garlic@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      the other option is a faster, more privacy focused, free, open source operating system.

      I made the switch a little over a year ago, I know not everybody can/wants to - but major distros are honestly polished enough these days that I haven’t looked back, I should have switched to Linux years ago.

      Not everyone will agree, but I think Ubuntu + installing apps through Flatpak is a winning option.

    • idriss@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      The only correct answer. Also too little too late for MS. Suck up a little bit of inconvenience to gain back your life with 🐧

  • latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 months ago

    I’m morbidly eager to see how they’ll handle the Win 10 EoL (yeah, yeah, it ain’t dyin’, just not getting updated, same thing to me tbh) in October. I bet it’ll be a shitshow.

      • yucandu@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        I’m convinced the whole “your computer will instantly turn into a botnet that cripples children’s hospitals the moment you disable Windows Update” thing is part of Microsoft’s internet propaganda.

        Like there are sysadmins for pretty big industries that schedule updates, sometimes once a month or even less frequently. Why aren’t they worried about all the 0-day remote code execution exploits that supposedly exist every single day?

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          <sigh> I used to be one of those sysadmins, and the short answer is appropriate risk management, better network controls a locked down OS and immediate action to push out the patches for serious issues.

          I quite frankly detest M$ but keeping your pc patched isn’t propaganda.

          If you know enough to manage the risk (including proper network firewalls and good internet hygiene) then sure, keep going for a while. Zero days aren’t daily, they’re a handful per year.

          On the other hand if you have no clue about ITSec then you genuinely need to upgrade asap because you’re metaphorically running around with your genitals exposed.

          Your comment leads me to suggest you probably dont have the skills to do an appropriate risk assessment.

          But you do you. I’m not your Dad

  • Wolf@lemmy.today
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    6 months ago

    To get pedantic for a second. The title of this post is “Microsoft gives…” as if this was an altruistic act that Microsoft decided to do for some people, when the article states they did it to comply with a law.

    A much better title would have been “EU Forces Microsoft to Give Users More Control:” It returns the credit to the people who deserve the credit and clarifies that it wasn’t something Microsoft did willingly.