The pig sees her, turns, aims, and shoots her almost point blank.

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      I was watching Hasan being at the protests to get a sense of what is actually going on and a European left a comment on his video that succinctly put the US police into perspective.

      As a European I don’t get how the police is just shooting rubber bullets instantly, why do they not have riot shields and water throwers and such, it seems so uncivilised.

      And that pretty much sums up the cops in the US. They’re just uncivilized. Their idea of “deescalation” is escalation until you’re too incapacitated to fight back.

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      It’s called flirting. Or maybe he asked her out and she rejected him. It really could go both ways.

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            Then the poor LA taxpayers foot the bill while Rubber Rambo keeps his job and gets a free vacation.

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              Taxpayers are footing the bill regardless. That should never be a deterrent for holding the bad guys responsible for their behavior.

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                Im pointing out that it doesn’t hold the bad guys accountable. They are above the law, the only accountability they will get is bleeding to death on the streets. Or even smarter, bleeding to death in their bedroom or the bar the frequent.

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                  Look I’m just as jaded, exhausted, and sick of this tyrannical bullshit as you are, but at the same time we’ve got to start somewhere. And if we can maybe make things (financially) uncomfortable for the people in charge, then so be it.

                  A foreign news organization is more likely able to make things uncomfortable than you or me.

                  We’ve got to start somewhere. We’ve got to start, and never stop.

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            We won’t. Our government is still trying to pretend that everything is fine and normal in the US despite winning the recent election in a massive landslide based partially on anti-Trumpism sentiment. I’d love to see Albo prove me wrong but I’m not holding my breath.

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    Bullet proof west with PRESS on it and a helmet/glasses. Trump made a war zone so it should be treated as a war zone.

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          The band still stands for those things. The drummer is just an asshole. The lyrical meaning of their songs hasn’t changed.

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          How the fuck are you in SOAD and playing songs AGAINST the Bush Administration directly and playing a whole tour of protest shows, and all in supporting Occupy Wall Street and then you are like “well the Fascist has some excellent points and the trains run on time” (just for clarification, “the trains ran on time” was a Italian fascist propaganda talking point after the end of WWII, and it was never true, not literally and not figurative, the Italian fascists let trains run quite late compared to other governments, and them failing at getting even the military in order was a thing they were famous for. Fascist governments are often total cluster fucks of infighting and failure that can only be relied upon to start wars, kill people, and make the rich MUCH richer while everyone else is just trying to survive, and the absolute lie that the boarder was somehow in crisis under Biden is absurd, and is sold without any counter argument all over major news of any level, no Biden wasn’t letting rapists target white women on the boarder, he kept all of Trumps Immigration system in place, abuse and all.)

          anyway. I can hate the drummer. I can like Motley Crue and hate the lead singer AND drummer! this isn’t a problem. the creative forces in the band would never fall for this bullshit.

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    A good time to remind everybody that while rubber bullets are considered “non-lethal,” they can kill.

    Back in 2004 a college student in Boston died from a bullet that missed its intended target, hit the ground and ricocheted into her eye.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Victoria_Snelgrove

    So, while the shot certainly wasn’t warranted, IMO its worse because of what could have happened because this officer was taking a shot for fun.

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      Even if less-lethal ammunition were risk free, that should still be a crime. Even in the ideal risk-free case, how is this any different from assault, if the cop came up behind a reporter swinging his baton. There was clearly no justifiable reason, it was clearly assault for fun or intimidation, and any reasonable person would know that.

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      That and the fact it’s directly attacking your civil rights to free speech and an unprovoked attack. So it’s definitely unconstitutional.

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      “non-lethal” Oh, boy! What an infuriating misnomer that is.

      This is also a good time to remember nothing here in this context is “non-lethal”. All of these things (sand bags, tear gas, tasers, pepper spray, mace, rubber bullets, batons, shields, tactical holds, etc.) are accurately called “less lethal” because all of them can and will kill under certain circumstances, even when used by trained officers with good intentions. (I know. How often does that happen, right?) It doesn’t take much to cross that line between “not intending murder” and “actual fucking murder”, often something as simple as a common medical condition or simply falling while moving over hard ground like curbs and sidewalks. If a reporter is using the term “non-lethal” in the context of police brutality, that’s a pretty good sign that you are being lied to.

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      Almost all " non-lethal" munitions are really “less lethal” and capable of killing someone if they get hit in the wrong area. They also easily maim. I saw a pellet from what are called “donkey balls” which are essentially clay-more mines filled with little rubber pellets bounce off a wall fast enough to go through someone’s cheek and exit out the other side of his mouth. TLDR You can really fuck someone up with that stuff. Cops think they are like nerf toys.

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        Those are the things the Jackass guys got shot with in the first movie. The company called it a “Stingmore” mine.

        Way too many people are comfortable with utilizing anything referred to as a “mine” against unarmed civilians.

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      There’s a distance at which they stop being “less-lethal”. At 10 meters/30 feet they’re considered extremely dangerous. The “effective range” at which they’re generally considered less likely to penetrate is 20 to 30 meters (65 to 100 feet).

      Lenses make estimating distance tricky, but based on the lines in the road, I don’t think she’s 20 meters away from that cop.

      These journalists need body armor and helmets if they’re going to be that close to American Police. Back in 2011 an Iraq War vet named Scott Olsen was head shot at a distance of a few feet fracturing his skull and when some protestors tried to rescue him they flashbanged the rescue effort. It’s extremely unsafe to be that close to these guys.

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    It should also be noted that the term “rubber bullet” is exceedingly euphemistic.

    So-called ‘rubber bullets’ are huge and have been known to maim and blind people. These aren’t tiny little paintball rounds, folks.

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      Because most of them have a core of metal or other high density material and a softer exterior. It’s like wrapping a brick in a couple of layers of bubble wrap and hitting someone if the face with it.

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        No, more like wrapping metal in rubber, as you had described. No need to downplay it.

        It’s like getting the end of one of these lobbed at you:

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        Yeah, in a different thread there were some drawings too.

        Until today, I imagined rubber projectile being something that’s just something fast but soft, perhaps something that even disintegrates on impact.

        Kind of like paintball.

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        Well, you have to have something heavy to hold enough inertia to have a deterring impact.

        How else are you supposed to suppress the growing second class citizenry? Communicate?

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          Look, nobody’s saying there shouldn’t be special munitions to assault and potentially maim people who have the audacity to tell you the state is doing a bad thing.

          We’re just arguing about the particular construction of this tool for doing that.

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    People killed by the german police in 2024 (record year): 22 People killed by the police in the united states in 2022: 1176 Well i guess we only have 1/4 of the population so 50 times the number of deaths is normal is to be expected.

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    LAPD shot a protester in the head with rubber bullets and refused to call an ambulance for her as she lay there bleeding and concussed; another protester was trampled and concussed by mounted police; countless other protestors were beat over the head savagely with batons… and this is only what was on video.

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      It’s one thing to constantly talk about standing up to tyranny and defending your precious freedoms, owning guns especially for that long awaited moment when they can be revolutionary heroes.
      Looks like Americans talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.

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        The Americans who spout off about things like standing up to tyranny and how much they love having guns are not the same people participating in this protest. The government is actively supporting those people.

        The protesters are the ones expecting the rule of law to eventually win, but also know how important it is to protest so that the rule of law continues to exist. It may not be as violent as you’re expecting, but it seems to me that they are walking the walk.

        We haven’t done this in a while and we’re a little rusty, but that doesn’t mean we aren’t fighting.

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          The Americans who spout off about things like standing up to tyranny and how much they love having guns are not the same people participating in this protest

          And this is part of the problem. Maybe we should be the people bitching about tyranny and loving guns.

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          Guns is probably and mostly a typical right-wing fetish (despite Dem uniparty politicians doing nothing about it).
          The freedom and revolutionary spirit talk is for sure bipartisan and typical American.

          I can tell you now the velvet gloves, following the little rules is not going to work.
          You will get nothing if you don’t take it.

          And when have you done this before?
          I can’t think of anything.

          Edit:
          Wondering if you’ve been influenced by this rat here:
          https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1l7iqgl/stfu_lib_show_some_solidarity/

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      NYpd and lapd are probably the most corrupt out there. LAPD has actual gang affiliations, some with white supremcesists.

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      California should pass a ballot initiative making it legal for any random person to shoot police with less lethal munitions whenever they want. You should just be able to walk up to any cop, any time you want, and shoot them with a rubber bullet. If it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.

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        Oh so it’s ok to selectively shoot journalists if you don’t agree with their ideology? I bet the other cop didn’t agree with that journalist’s. Case closed, following your logic.

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          They’re two separate statements. I acknowledge that it’s beyond shitty for cops to be shooting anyone (especially journalists).

          But also the news outlet in question is known to have shitty politics and therefore while this specific article is more or less accurate (and backed up by other sources) , they are far from a reliable source.

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        are they? all i know about LBC is what I’ve seen of James O’Brien and he seemed to be none of that. is he like a token liberal/socdem or something?

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      Your link also includes the full video of the Australian getting shot too. You should point that out as I’m sure others would like to see it.

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    What’s IDF for non Americans?

    Otherwise, cops shooting at journalists is pretty worrisome.

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      Many US police departments have been training with the Israeli “Defense” Forces for years. They are bringing the tactics back home.

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        Not a joke.

        Critics of Israel’s military assaults on the Gaza Strip and its crackdown in the occupied West Bank point out that the LAPD has sent personnel to study and train with Israeli security forces accused of state-sanctioned violence against civilians in the two Palestinian territories.

        The Police Department’s ongoing relationship with Israeli forces — based on what officials have said is a shared goal of fighting extremism inside their borders — has come under scrutiny before, along with other international training efforts. The agency’s dealings with Israeli forces date back to at least the early 1980s, but ramped up after the 9/11 attacks as the LAPD sought to boost its counter-terrorism training.

        In 2002, the Washington advocacy group Jewish Institute for National Security of America sponsored an LAPD delegation’s weeklong trip to Israel, during which department officials visited police and military outposts and studied Israel’s border patrol operations in the Galilee region and the occupied West Bank. Around the same time, the department began sending bomb squad technicians to learn from their counterparts in Israel; at least one trip was paid for by an $18,000 donation from the Los Angeles Police Foundation, a nonprofit independent fundraising group.

        In the years since, high-ranking officials from L.A. and Israel have routinely traded delegations. But critics say that in light of the polarizing conflict in Gaza, the LAPD’s ongoing ties to Israeli forces threaten the department’s image of impartiality.

        https://archive.is/vh8fA