Here are some basic facts:

  • method was penile inversion
  • I opted for full-depth rather than a vulvoplasty
  • surgery took 3 hours, though recovery took another hour
  • I went under general anaesthesia and had to be intubated and put on a ventilator
  • I’m currently admitted in the hospital and bed bound, discharge is scheduled for Friday
  • so far pain is between 1 and 3 for me, most of the time it’s between a 0 and 1.

Ask me anything!

  • Saerana@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 months ago

    Congrats! I def need to get one for myself soon. Are you comfortable sharing the name of the surgeon/practice?

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      6 months ago

      I DM’d you some details. My recommendation is to start electrolysis yesterday, lol - hair removal takes a very long time and it’s best if you can get at least a year of electrolysis so catch all the hair cycles.

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    6 months ago

    Congrats ! I hope you have a speedy recovery ! My question is: what exactly is the difference between a vaginoplasty and a vulvoplasty, and the part about full depth? I sort of can work out an idea from the names but I guess I’m wondering what’s the details that make it either/or?

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      6 months ago

      Strictly speaking, a vaginoplasty normally includes a vulvoplasty, but the reverse isn’t always true. A vulvoplasty without a vaginoplasty means no vaginal canal, and so no depth.

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      6 months ago

      Sometimes people will use vulvoplasty to mean a shallow-depth vaginoplasty, I was just specifying I had full-depth (which has a longer recovery time and more risks of complications. Basically with a vulvoplasty / shallow-depth you have labia, a clit, etc. but no vaginal canal. With a full-depth vaginoplasty you have all the things a vulvoplasty provides (labia, clit, etc.) as well as the vaginal canal (as Ada points out).

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      6 months ago

      lol, I have so much work to do once I’ve healed, but in terms of what a vaginoplasty unlocks for me, I definitely look forward to swimming and feeling right / fitting better in my clothes.

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        6 months ago

        Oh gosh, I hear you on the swimming! I’m a trans guy and my first swim post-top surgery was so much fun. It was way too cold for me to be in that pool and I didn’t give a shit. I hope you have a blast at your body of water of choice!

        • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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          ha, that’s awesome - I was always the kid that wore a shirt to go swimming because it felt wrong to go topless. Looking back, there might have been signs, lol

          So glad you had that post-op joy, I look forward to joining you 😁

  • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 months ago

    Hows it feel to not having a thing touching your inner thigh, constantly? Although i guess theres probably something there from the hospital 😅

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      6 months ago

      post orchi not having testes was a huge benefit for that - but the empty scrotum would still slap the thighs and make me feel nauseated and upset whenever that happened.

      I am on bed rest so I’m not allowed to walk or get out of bed until Friday, so I have no idea yet how walking feels - I am very much looking forward, though - that was one of the biggest sources of genital dysphoria and I can’t wait for it to be gone. I remember post-orchi saying “every step brings joy” because walking used to cause dysphoria and suddenly I could walk differently and feel so much better.

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    4 months ago

    Dang, 3 hours? I was under for 10. No complications were reported for mine I wonder what the differences was.

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      4 months ago

      I was shocked about the time too, I have no idea how the surgeon gets the time that low.

      The staff felt similar amazement and talked about how important reducing time under anesthesia is, that risks go up the longer the patient is under and so on. Apparently the surgeon’s top-surgery times are also very low, he works quickly.

      Even with the short surgery time, I ended up with numbness in one of my arms from being unconscious and my arm being in the wrong position for too long. The tingling and numbness lasted a day or two before going away, but that was unnerving.

  • NCC-21166 (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 months ago

    Ok, actual question time!

    • How long was the waitlist, or the time between your consultation and the scheduled surgery date?
    • Which PIV method did you get? I was looking at a specific method in the northeast and am trying to get an orchi ASAP with a request to preserve some tissue for a specific method, and am wondering if this is the same method. This seems like a VERY short time in the OR.
    • Did you discuss personal priorities with your doctor? I have in mind the juxtaposition of sensation vs function vs aesthetics.
    • Last one: how big was your grin when you woke up and realized everything was the way it should be?
    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      How long was the waitlist, or the time between your consultation and the scheduled surgery date?

      That’s a good question - I started HRT in December 2023, and I couldn’t have any surgeries until 1 year later (Dec. 2024). I knew I wanted an orchi, so during my first year of HRT I got a letter from a therapist for surgery, and then called up the hospital and scheduled a consultation, which happened probably sometime in the summer or fall of 2024 (sorry, details are a little fuzzy here).

      Then I had the orchi scheduled with them for December and I started laser hair removal on the genital region a couple months before the orchi as I started to think a vaginoplasty would be a good idea.

      Electrolysis for hair removal started ASAP after the orchi, so that was early February.

      So overall the wait was like 6ish months since if I hadn’t been so dismissive of my bottom dysphoria and taken vaginoplasty more seriously, I might have done hair removal my whole first year of HRT and then had the vaginoplasty ASAP in December 2024 rather than waiting for June 2025.

      Either way, I consider this a pretty short timeline, though I really wish I could have had my orchi when I started HRT in 2023, that insurance requirement to wait a year is blatant transphobia.

      Which PIV method did you get? I was looking at a specific method in the northeast and am trying to get an orchi ASAP with a request to preserve some tissue for a specific method, and am wondering if this is the same method. This seems like a VERY short time in the OR.

      Honestly I have no idea - I tend to think about getting the best surgeon and then getting whatever method they are best at. Since this surgeon is best at PIV that’s what I went with. I wish I had more details about it, because I’ve never heard of a full-depth vaginoplasty being done in 2 - 3 hours, that’s just insane.

      Did you discuss personal priorities with your doctor? I have in mind the juxtaposition of sensation vs function vs aesthetics.

      In visits before the operation I did ask the PA and nurses about what to expect in terms of sensation, function, etc. I didn’t give a lot of input on aesthetics, but that’s partially because I’ve seen his work before and it matches what I would like.

      Last one: how big was your grin when you woke up and realized everything was the way it should be?

      Leading up to the surgery was so nervous I was making a mistake and scared that it would look awful and I would immediately feel regret. Once I was in my own room and could look at it more closely, despite being the first day I felt this immense relief - like I had just shed a mountain of burden. I was shocked to find that I was so extremely happy with the results, and that led to some happy sobbing.

      I’ve had intrusive thoughts about cutting off my penis since I was a teenager, and my scrotum has always seemed extremely gross to me - I just coped by not taking those feelings seriously, and so in a real way I didn’t understand my own bottom dysphoria or how severe it was. Right now at least I just feel so much relief and happiness - and I can’t explain why, it just is that way despite not expecting it to be like this at all.

      • NCC-21166 (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Either way, I consider this a pretty short timeline, though I really wish I could have had my orchi when I started HRT in 2023, that insurance requirement to wait a year is blatant transphobia.

        That is a short timeline! I’m happy that you were able to move this fast!

        In visits before the operation I did ask the PA and nurses about what to expect in terms of sensation, function, etc.

        This has always been a thing that worries me. I’m mostly concerned with functionality, though obviously we would all like like have all 3 be perfect. I’m glad you were able to find the procedure you were hoping for!

        I was shocked to find that I was so extremely happy with the results, and that led to some happy sobbing.

        Joy really is the end goal, isn’t it?

        • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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          This surgeon seems pretty decent on all three measures, aesthetic seems ideal as well as function and sensitivity.

          Here are some photos of the surgeon’s work:

          NSFW

          3 month post-op:

          different person, 1 year post-op (this one is shallow-depth / vulvoplasty):

          same vulvoplasty person but 6 months post-op:

          a different person 4 days post-op:

          and yeah, joy is the end-goal I guess, for me it’s more like harm reduction driving things than joy, but I’m happily surprised when the joy comes anyway, lol

          I have a hard time connecting with my feelings around dysphoria, I’ve coped really well and part of the way I cope is by dismissing and ignoring my feelings around gender.

  • Mossy Feathers (She/Her)@pawb.social
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    6 months ago

    Congrats! I hope someday I’ll be able to do the same. The idea of sex kinda sucks when it feels like your brain is looking for parts you don’t have.

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      yes, I didn’t think my bottom dysphoria was that bad, I would have described it as moderate - but after the surgery and looking down, I felt such a huge sense of relief I broke down crying - I clearly had big feelings I was dismissing the severity of.

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        T~T

        Tbh, I’m starting to look into it myself, though I still have +6mo before insurance will cover it. However, considering how long I’ve heard the waiting period can be, maybe now is the best time to start thinking about it and looking for surgeons.

        • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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          yes, wait times can be very long and this is a surgery that requires a lot of planning. 6 months isn’t even enough time to get your hair removal finished, generally I see recommendations to have 1 whole year of electrolysis and at least 3 full cycles of hair clearance. That alone is a huge amount of work and time - I had 1 hour electrolysis appointments once a week. When you add in the typical insurance requirements to have been on hormones under the supervision of a doctor for a year and the requirement to get two independent letters from psychologists, you are looking at a lot of appointments with endocrinologists, psychologists, and eventually with the surgery team. It’s a lot - so start now if you think you might even possibly want it.

          When I socially transitioned I practically promised myself I wouldn’t get a vaginoplasty, I only wanted an orchi … and that position was fully reversed after 6 months of estrogen. I wish I had taken the possibility of a vaginoplasty more seriously, and that I had started hair removal for that much earlier.

          • Szyler@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            Why is the hair removal so important? Is it for removing hair that will be on the internal parts?

            • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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              The scrotum and phallus skin is removed and used as a skin graft and it becomes the lining of the neovagina. You don’t want hair in your neovagina. Besides the obvious discomfort with that, there have been cases where hair in the neovagina leads to infections.

              Usually surgeons now will cauterize the follicles they find on the skin graft, but that only addresses the hairs growing in that cycle - you need to have removed the hairs over many cycles so new ones don’t come in after the surgery. That’s why it’s best to have cleared all the hair with electrolysis across several cycles - ideally over an entire year (even longer than that would be better because the following year you can kill any that were missed the first year).