It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice and then think that soy is affecting their hormones.
Not people, conservatives
So conservatives are not people, or I misinterpreted your comment?
Not conservatives, regressives.
Literally the same thing
Its not. There are real conservatives who vote democrat/independent and always have. Regressives are always wasteful and intrusive fanatics unlike a genuine conservative. They might not agree with someone but don’t waste their time trying to shove their worldview down someones throat. Just like a lot of people claiming to be woke also do. Both groups are intolerant and annoying.
Your “true conservatives” are about as rare as fucking unicorns
Yeah but some centrist democrats obsessed with being open minded and “reaching across the aisle” like to promote them.
And I’m sure both of those “real” conservatives are very happy about that
Not really. All you hear on either side of this morass is the squawking fanatics. The fact you think real conservatives are rare is really sad. Its why the false ones need to be labeled regressives. By playing their game you alienate people who otherwise would be an ally.
I’d be much more inclined to believe you if quite literally every single conservative I know except for one person hadn’t gotten completely fucking unhinged over the past few years. So out of my admittedly anecdotal sample size of some tens of conservatives, it’s funny how none of them has managed to be a “real” conservative.
One self-described “moderate” went as far as to tell me that he thinks the world would be a better place if all of us LGBT+ folks just stopped existing.
Definitionally identical
It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice
Yeah.
It’s not that wild lol
It’s completely wild that… Husbandry exists? That we eat other animals? That we rot liquid food to drink it? That we use bacteria to curdle milk?
Hot bean juice!
Your comparison is stupid.
@idiomaddict talks about cow milk and soy milk, yet you go on a rant about how “cOw MiLk iS nOrMaL?!!”.
I’m on your level. People get really weird about milk despite the fact that the majority of people consume animal flesh on a daily basis. Milk is way low on the weird food scale.
We’ve been eating animals a few million years longer than drinking their milk. (Lactose intolerance is far more common than generally thought.)
how the FUCK do you think babies grow
By drinking human hormone juice and getting their hormones messed with. It’s good and helpful for babies.
The problem is that they give the cows growth hormone and high amounts of estrogen to encourage lactation and it’s in the milk. I’m lactose intolerant like half of adults anyway so I do almond milk and olive oil butter personally.
That doesn’t make any sense. Estrogen wouldn’t even make a cow produce more milk. Are you confusing Estrogen with Prolactin? (which also isn’t given to cows, but would at least have the effect you describe)
None of those chemicals are allowed to be present in the milk of cows lactating for human consumption. They test the milk for those chemicals at the dairy. If any trace amount is found, the whole tanker is dumped as contaminated.
How the fuck does this get posted all the time without anyone ever picking up on the fact that this workplace dynamic is obviously made up and anon is literally a 4chan kid who just changed the actors in his story from '‘teacher’ and “classmate” to ‘boss’ and ‘coworker’ so he wouldn’t get banned on an 18+ imageboard.
FOUND THE SOYBOY
Not only that, but mammal milk is literally hormone soup. Including estrogen. And soy doesn’t actually contain the same type of estrogen. They contain isoflavones including plant estrogen (phytoestrogen). Similar but different chemical, with different bioavailability in mammals.
Also:
For example, many studies have found that Western-type dietary patterns characterized by high intakes of red meat, processed foods, sweets, dairy, and refined grains are consistently associated with higher estrogen levels ( 3 , 15 , 16 , 17 ).
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods-to-lower-estrogen
Basically the diet of the carnivores that mock the soyboys. How’s that for projection?
Sorry my facts offend your feelings.
Soyboy.
It is a badge i would wear with honor, because soy is awesome and the myth is bullshit.
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Cow milk is full of estrogen and growth hormone.
YO GIRLS, FEMMES, AND THOSE TRYING TO AVOID TWINK DEATH, YOU READING THIS??
YOU DON’T NEED THAT EXPENSIVE HRT, YOU JUST NEED TO DRINK MORE COWS MILK!
BECAUSE THE INTERNET CLOWNS SAID SO. JUST LIKE HOW THEY FOUND THE BOSTON BOMBER!
The point isn’t that drinking cow milk will make you turn femme, it’s that if cow milk doesn’t soy milk sure as fuck ain’t going to.
afaik, it’s not really a myth. it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens and it’s often recommended as a supplement for HRT. Probably not enough to have much of an effect on its own though
Phytoestrogens and estrogens have some similarities in their chemical structure and ability to bind to estrogen receptors, but they have important differences in their effects on the human body:
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Estrogens are hormones produced naturally in the body, primarily in the ovaries in women. They are essential for sexual and reproductive development and function[5].
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Phytoestrogens are plant-derived compounds that have a similar chemical structure to estrogens and can bind to estrogen receptors, but they are not hormones and are not produced naturally in the human body[1][4].
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Phytoestrogens typically have much weaker estrogenic effects compared to human estrogens like estradiol[1][3]. The effects of phytoestrogens depend on factors like the specific type, dose, and individual differences in metabolism and estrogen levels[2].
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Consuming phytoestrogens from foods like soy, flaxseeds, fruits and vegetables is unlikely to have a significant impact on estrogen levels or health, as the amounts are very low compared to what the body naturally produces[4]. Concentrated phytoestrogen supplements may have more noticeable effects.
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In some cases, phytoestrogens may actually have anti-estrogenic effects by blocking estrogen receptors or reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]. This is thought to be due to their structural similarity to estrogens.
Some potential benefits of phytoestrogens that have been studied include:
- Reducing menopausal symptoms like hot flashes in some women[1][3]
- Improving cardiovascular health markers[2][4]
- Reducing risk of certain cancers like breast and prostate cancer[3][6]
However, the evidence is mixed, with many studies finding no significant effects[1][2]. Potential risks include:
- Blocking estrogen receptors and reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]
- Interfering with thyroid function in some cases[2]
- Potential effects on breast and prostate cancer risk, though the evidence is inconclusive[3][6]
Citations: [1] https://herkare.com/blog/estrogen-replacement-therapy-vs-phytoestrogens/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/ [3] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/648139 [4] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320630 [5] https://advancedhormonesolutions.com/do-you-know-the-difference-between-phytoestrogens-and-estrogen/ [6] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [7] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763421005558 [8] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phytoestrogen
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it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens
you think because it has “estrogens” in the name it turns you into a girl. phyto- means plant. are you a plant?
recommended as a supplement for HRT.
by who? facebook?
Exactly. It has a similar name in one of the ingredients. But: this ingredient is not estrogen and it basically has zero impact on the hormones in your body. And all experts know that. That’s why there’s no scientific papers supporting this whole soy / estrogen theory.
by who? facebook?
You know what I’ve been seeing on Facebook lately (qualifier, I use it for my local village group and those last few friends that refuse to use anything else)? People posting the fact that the AstraZeneca vaccine used a modified chimpanzee adenovirus and implying this is the cause of the mpox business.
I would 100% bet they got it from Facebook!
I dunno, just mentioning what I’ve heard before, hence the ‘afaik’
Meanwhile cow milk is full of estrogen because it helps the cows to lactate.
It’s really strange that all of the replies to your comment are essentially agreeing with you but you got downvoted into the dirt for stating facts.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
Its basically been proven as bullshit, physiologically if you are healthy its not true. There MAY be edge cases where if you are lacking the vitamins/minerals/essential fats necessary for hormone regulation it MAY in SOME people cause SOME irregularity but edge cases are just that.
False, the phytoestrogens in beer are far more bioavailable, but also the animal estrogen in beef.
The soy thing has to be one of the funniest delusions I’ve ever seen.
People convincing themselves that all liberals are vegans, all vegans eat a diet primarily of soy, and that soy has compounds similar to estrogen, so therefore all liberal men are feminized by their diets and are therefore weak (because being a woman is bad).
The number of weird things you have to believe out of insecurity to get to that conclusion are quite embarrassing. It’s quite a self-report.
You can also reverse the argument into mockery, accusing conservative women of being too masculine because they don’t eat enough soy, then bragging about how feminine soy-loving liberal women are.
The hilarious part is that the phytoestrogen in soy and other plants isn’t compatible with our biology. High qualities studies hava failed to find an effect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/
Meanwhile the actual mammalian estrogen that is in animal products does get absorbed and effect our hormones.
Finding a reason to completely disregard not just the ideas but even the humanity of huge swaths of other people is conservatism 101. Just give in to your most base tribal tendencies, and “know” that all those good-sounding ideas are in fact wrong and evil because they’re coming from the wrong/lesser people.
When you can’t argue against ideas, argue against the people saying them. See if ad-hominem attacks will work on people. (narrator: they did)
The really funny thing about this is OP is egregiously wrong.
Soy doesn’t contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen, which not only doesn’t produce any estrogen-like side-effect, but actively prevents our bodies from taking and producing estrogenic hormones.
This is all very ironic, considering drinking
excessivecows milkleeches calcium out of our bones andexposes us to a smorgasbord of hormones not designed for humans.Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
Doesnt cowmilk also actually have estrogen in it? Making it even more ironic?
This leeching effect is not true. It’s a myth spread by alt-health providers.
Cow milk does not leech calcium from your bones.
If soy did do this, red states would be trying to regulate it so trans people couldn’t buy it.
See, what his coworkers did was good bullying. Anon learned something and also wasn’t fired for whatever skeevy pseudosexual thing he was implying about his coworker, probably over politics. Winning hearts and minds, people.
