Also I want to hear from you, is it ethical and why?

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    Because it doesn’t physically harm me to do so. Cutting yourself is physically painful and damaging to your body. Growing cells in a pitri dish to save on dinner is neither of those things.

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        3 months ago

        Okay now you’ve really lost me? How in the hell is that emotional self harm? If anything I’d take it as a self-compliment that I taste good :p

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          So, if self-cannibalism of lab grown meat is allowed, then cannibalism of lab grown meat (so cells from other people) would also be allowed.

          Think of how we treat other sources of animal derived foods, it’s pretty shitty and cruel treatment. In this case, the person chooses to eat self sourced or other person sourced lab grown meat because eating a real person would be murder, and cutting themselves up would be physical self harm.

          The question is what is the underlying psychological justification for them deciding to eat lab grown human meat. Is it that they’re avoiding physical pain and murder? Lab grown animal meat is there to substitute for animal meat. But what’s the justification for lab grown human meat? Novelty? Taste? Psychological issues? How do we trust this persons judgement for themselves and others?

          The issue is that human societies veered away from cannibalism for social issues, and so how do we trust those people who would engage in some form of cannibalism, even if it’s their own lab grown cells.

          Some context which also gives European views on first encounters and how the social revulsion to this idea was established https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/making-of-an-imperial-polity/cannibalism-and-the-politics-of-bloodshed/D4D05AE81BBADD074FBCDC09504605D3

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            I fail to see how we treat meat animals as relevant. No ones going to be caged and mistreated because there’s no reason to.

            The fact you’re eating human meat isn’t enough to cause psychological issues when no one was harmed, and the idea that it does is fucking laughable.

            Unless someone is actually mistreated, which again no practical reason to, as getting a microscopic sample to grow from is harmless. Where would this psychological damage come from? Because it would remind us of the animals we did kill and eat? That’s fucking goofy. The psychological harm of cannibalism IS FROM THE PHYSICAL HARM BEING DONE TO THE OTHER PERSON. NOTHING ELSE. THATS IT.

            Eating something that harmlessly grew from my body isn’t going to impose psychological damage, nor does it imply I lack empathy for myself or those around me.

            There’s ethically no difference between eating your own lab grown meat, and eating your own boogers. There’s ethically no difference between someone eating your own lab grown meat, and someone eating your boogers.

            It doesn’t automatically put me in the same class as livestock. I’m not undermining my humanity, nor does it mean I don’t care for myself. Your hang ups are your own. Get the fuck over yourself.

            This almost reminds me of the weird psychosexual hangups incels have but for vegans. Imposing meaning where there is none, Jesus fucking Christ dude.