• otacon239@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Yay! Cencorship! I spent an extra 3 seconds focusing on the word psychopath trying to figure out what went wrong instead of reading it like a normal word. Isn’t that so much better than offending an algorithm with the letter ‘h’?

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    5 months ago

    no Google

    I do not believe you.

    Arch Linux

    Okay, fine. A rare sighting.

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      I remember using man pages when I was contributing to a C open source project back in the day.

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            My favorite thing about StumbleUpon was basically opening me up to a whole Internet without touching Google, and it showed me so many fun things. RIP.

            Jumpstick.app comes pretty close though.

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      5 months ago

      There are dozens of us. And we are used to reading manuals, since we first installed our system.

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        I was there. I was one of them. I just chose to use tools to make my life easier. Call me a sell out, I guess.

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          Nope, not a sell out. Just a person using the tools at hand. You can’t just live in the past. You did it without Google back then because there was no Google and you had to use what you had to use. Now you use Google, because again, you have to use what you have to use. In the end, I personally only care about the outcome.

          I just chose to use tools to make my life easier

          If you don’t then I’d call you stupid. Keep doing that, friend. That’s the best way actually. You want your life easier so you can put out great work.

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              I’m talking about developers in general before even Linux was a thing. I thought that was obvious in my comment. Guess not, I need to work more on my English.

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                I understood your point fine. I indeed started out with first Commodore BASIC and then into 6502, all using the manuals because there wasn’t much else of a source back then.

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                  Thank you, kindly. I’ve heard that manuals where fun to use (sarcasm). Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember those days, but wasn’t fortunate enough to own or even be able to witness such gems in real life.

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                Your English is fine. The same words often evoke different mental images from one person to another. Sometimes I have trouble distinguishing when to embrace literal meanings and when to go with the general gist of words. Thanks for addressing my comment, a gentle reminder for me.

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    I had an internship 15 years ago where I was forced to write C++ with no internet access. I had to use a programming manual and man pages.

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      25 years ago I was writing code in a paper notebook, sometimes while riding the bus. The only computer access was at college and it was easier to work through the code on paper and then quickly transcribe it once I got on campus.

      Yeah, things are a bit more complicated now, but in other ways they are sooooo much easier. The fact that people are using chatGPT to ‘program’ is just crazy from my perspective.

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    I can still do this provided that the language is Perl. But the few cases when I actually have to do so are rare, and never in public.

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      Well yeah, Perl is write-only. Larry Wall asked the monkey’s paw for a language that works on the first try. What’s onscreen are your raw brain patterns.

      Thank god it runs like crap. Optimized C isn’t pretty, but any project that compiles proves someone looked at it more than once.

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    Back in my day we would program using office hole puncher and going to a library every time we needed to look up some API information.

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    I was going to ask how he knew it was Arch, but I feel like that is just setting up the next comment.

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    Yesterday I spent about 2 hours trying to get ChatGPT to walk me through the install process of putting Arch on a 2011 MacBook Air. It just wouldn’t work and the further along we got the harder it seemed and I really thought that using AI was necessary. I finally gave up and read the Arch Wiki and had it installed in under 45 minutes.

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      That tracks. The AI push is extraordinarily premature. It makes sense that capitalist idiots see mass layoffs as improvement, but rational people do not.

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      I tried reading the gadget bridge instructions for my watch. Could not get a straight answer on getting the authorization key (I’m a noob), wasted 2 hr. o3 gave me perfect instructions that got it done in 20 minutes. Ya win some ya lose some.

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        Yeah. It is really good at some things and bad at other things. I used to have a good sense for it but the arch install threw me off.

        I find it’s good at giving regex commands from natural language and vise versa. It’s really helped me get a grip on that aspect of learning (neo)vim.

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    The true psychopaths are those sweating about which tools other people use