I hate capitalism
So, class war or butlerian jihad? Pick at least one.
Escalator temporarily stairs
This is hilarious. I laughed for some time.
“Log back in to continue your OralB brushing experience”
Who thought it would be a good idea to have an online toothbrush, who decided to log customers out after a period of inactivity, and why, for all that is sane in the world, would not being logged in stop you from doing anything at all with your toothbrush!?!
Yeah. Everything in tour homr with radio needs to be microwaved. Butlerian jihad now.
I am enjoying saying “Log back in to continue your Oral B brushing experience” in my best “customer-service/salesperson ad lady” voice. Like the kind of tone that’s so soullessly saccharine that it gives AI vibes
We have recently gotten ourselves some SURI toothbrushes and they are eco friendly, repairable, the heads are recyclable/ biodegradable. They also give a better clean than my old oral b electric. Quieter too. Highly recommend.
How repairable are we talking? Can the battery be replaced?
Yup, you need to send it back to them but for a few quid (or included if you have their replacement head subscription) they will change the battery for you.
Oof, I’m not sure I’d call that repairable. That’s iPhone levels of repairable.
It’s a lot better than other electric toothbrushes whilst retaining waterproofing.
I have the cheapest oral-b (bought for under 20 euros about a decade ago) and it uses AA-batteries, a pair of rechargeable ikea 1900mah batteries last for about 100 cumulative minutes of usage.
My toothbrush is as dumb as it comes. The only smart thing it does is charging itself when I put it in its charger base. And that should be the standard.
No reason to even use electricity. A damp cloth and some baking soda works just as well!
Uh, looking that up, it really doesn’t seem to be true.
It was sarcasm. They were making fun of the comments.
You are correct. I was making fun that an electric toothbrush is “as dumb as it comes.”
Using baking soda is a thing that people do, but I’d save that for last resort situations. The “damp cloth” seemed to me like the least favorable application but, seriously, better than nothing tbh.
Oh, alright, I guess…
Pfft baking soda? Don’t you know certain tree species’ twigs work just as well?
(not AI)Although my comment was making fun of electric toothbrushes being “as dumb as they come,” this is actually pretty cool.
Ngl, I just ordered some online to throw in my day pack.
i use only the oralb 1000, its good enough, no need to spend over 100-200 for a toothbrush.
I am what you would call a technology enthusiast, or what some people have dubbed as a gadget whore. I love little electronic devices that make my life easier. However, at no time in my life, will I ever need or desire a toothbrush that needs WiFi access or a subscription to some service. It really isn’t necessary or even useful. It’s like the old comic about the toilet that needs a phone app.
But then how will you download the latest pulse patterns? You could be missing out on a more optimal brushing experience.
Reminds me of my Dyson fan. When I put it away for the season the battery inside the remote leaked and the remote is dead now. So I download the Dyson remote control app. There’s only an on button on the fan itself, so in order to sync my phone to the fan i need the original remote to navigate the settings and go to “sync”
So my dead remote is required to activate any other remote
old comic
12-13-24
More like “Enshitify app”, amirite?
Deshittify, technically.
I think most of those toothbrushes use Bluetooth if you want to track your brush stats or something with like home assistant, mine came with that and I totally forgot until my home assistant pinged me one day to add the device, I got that toothbrush in like 2017 on some sale and I wanted an electric tooth brush
It doesn’t need it, it works totally fine without it.
(Also, FWIW, the toothbrush itself connects via Bluetooth, not Wi-Fi)
I love technology and gadgets!
Got this Cuckoo clock, and it never asks me to sign in.
I have a compass gadget in my car - never have to sign in
My propane camp stove - fun fact, no sign in!
I have a #2 pencil - I sign in with it regularly …
I own dozens of screws - brilliant tech helps me keep it all together, no sign in though
We’ve been doing great tech since the OG ‘Fire’. I’m beginning to think what we call the ‘tech’ industry has a very limited understanding of what tech actually is.
You jest, but smart toilets actually are a thing now… Though from what I can tell, they use remotes instead of apps. So no wifi or subscriptions, but you better not break that remote.
Whoa, you are not kidding. The toilet is powered (not so unusual for bidet toilets), but it looks like there’s no mechanical override. Just a ‘remote’ control panel with a flush button (among many other features). That I’m sure is hygienic.
The video is about how to bluetooth pair the remote to the toilet. There are so many points of possible failure here, I can’t even.
I used to be a gadgetwhore, now im recruiting for the butlerian jihad, and my values around this have not changed at all.
You serious, Clark?
sudden prick sensation when brushing teeth
robotic female voice: The user has been injected in the gums with a lethal poison that will approximately kill in two days. Please renew your subscription to receive the antidote injection.
If you meet a man who has been logged out of his toothbrush, do not mourn him. He has chosen thus. He is exactly where he has desired to be.
Mourn for this man, not for his choices but for his lack of them; a store selling expired milk should be put out of business by the authorities, not by a mob of post-poisoned shoppers.
That’s communist talk. Those shoppers should have done their research before buying bad milk.
that’s communist talk, keep saying it
That’s free-market naïveté . No one has the time to be an expert in every field to always make the informed choice.
Do you read the labels on tangerines to check which antibiotics were used against citrus-greening? Do you even know if that’s something you should be worrying about? Is Anti-Microbial Resistance something to legitimately be afraid of when buying tangerines?
(I leave this as an exercise for the so-called informed reader…)
I hope you understand that my comment was sarcastic…
Plenty of progressives who lean on the “vote-with-your-wallet” rhetoric. Can never be too careful.
But any man’s toothbrush logout diminishes me
Because I am involved in brushing my teeth
I wonder if it’s so you can get a calendar of usage tines. Could be handy to ensure kids are brushing for the right amount of time?
It does that plus map areas you are missing. Probably overkill for most but could be a good teaching tool as you suggest.
if you’re not on your way to get a refund for that bullshit, then that’s entirely on you and i have no sympathy
that shit exists because people keep fucking buying it
People keeping buying it because they don’t know this shit exist. And once they already buy it… Hey, as long as it works…
If it’s anything like mine, it works just fine without the app. The app just does brush tracking and shit. I don’t need any of that, so I never set it up. But I suspect even if I had, it would still let me use it without being logged into the app.
I suspect the same is true here. That the function of the toothbrush is available regardless of whether it’s logging data to your phone.
Yeah I got mine on sale a few years ago and totally forgot it had that until it showed up on my home assistant when I got a ZigBee USB dongle for my pi
But that’s way too rational and doesn’t let me rage, I don’t like it!
The function is available for now.
I cannot imagine the value to the company from whatever usage data they get from their toothbrushing app is anything close to the value they get from selling brush heads. So it would be immensely foolish to lock down the toothbrush.
The app is a selling point, and they do it because others do. Without it, they’d lose the portion of the market that wants to track which parts of their mouth they’ve brushed properly to their competitors. But that isn’t their main market, and they’d be idiots to kill their product chasing that niche.
Right? I buy only open-source wifi toothbrushes. Still waiting on the year of the Linux toothbrush, tbh
Can you turn a Raspberry Pi into a toothbrush? lol
Redtooth? 🙃
If you can’t run Doom on it, is it really your toothbrush?
But… how else am I going to connect my toothbrush to my smarthome…?
Just kidding, I use home assistant and my oral-b toothbrush broadcasts using BLE, which Is capture using the oral-b integration. You don’t need to be logged in.
I agree. It’s super dumb to buy IOT toothbrushes that require you to be logged in. Luckily I’m not one of those people, so that doesn’t apply to me. Phew…
IoT has gotten way out of hand
No it hasn’t. Nerds spend all day looking for edge cases with mostly unsuccessful dumb ideas then screech while having the option of 40 different branded regular brushes in every grocery store.
It’s angry permanently online rage fiends.
Just kidding, I use home assistant and my oral-b toothbrush broadcasts using BLE, which Is capture using the oral-b integration. You don’t need to be logged in.
Oh god I hope this is sarcasm. I’m good with my old, dumb oral-b that does nothing but brush my fucking teeth.
I imagine getting a notification on their phone reminding them if they’ve not brushed their teeth by a set time might help forgetful people to remember to brush their teeth, and if it’s via Home Assistant, which is self-hosted, entirely local, and open-source, there’s no downside other than having to set it up in the first place.
The oral-b integration has been installed by 13,611 users.
My BLE proxies keep picking up my neighbor’s toothbrush. I was briefly tempted to install the integration just to see what would happen. I didn’t because that’s creepy, but just… what a weird world we live in.
How’s your low-level programming ability?
I bet you could update its firmware to one you write.
Ever use one of those kid toothbrushes that plays a song by vibrating your skull? You could do that live from a microphone.
Exactly
We should not be shaming the consumers, but educating them. The blame is on the companies for making such a terrible product in the first place, the consumer only found out how bad it was after. Sometimes, you can no longer return a product because its X days out of policy.
Not that I don’t completely agree with your sentiment, but to make people start advocating for themselves, you have to make them see you are a friend, and the company is the enemy.
(not that the oop would ever see this post, comment or reply because who on twitter is also using lemmy, but you get it right?)
Sometimes, you can no longer return a product because its X days out of policy.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I bought this $50 brush than didn’t use it for 6 months 👌👍
I weep for all 5 of you that happened to.
You don’t have to not use it. You just have to not consistently use the app for 6 months. This is not about the users. Its about the abuse of the users. Regardless of if they did or did not use it for 6 months, the company should not force things upon you at random. I don’t understand the mentality of attacking people who are ignorant of the evils companies do. We all walk different paths, and no one learns without being taught.
Renew your subscription to continue brushing
Communism is when no toothbrush… Capitalism is when no toothbrush…
Imagine explaining the concept of this to a 16th century peasant, let alone some rich person from the 2000s, like nobody would’ve ever been ready to comprehend the existence of a wi-fi enabled toothbrush.
