As far as the mod action here go, it signals that this is not a place for actual discussion and shareworthy news.
They are proving that their community is not for learning news and seeing stuff you would not otherwise had know it. This is a community to share only the things we all know/believe in.
The article is by CNN based on about 80 pages report by Dinah Project and shared and discussed by other outlets:
And other outlets.
The conclusion for me here is clear.
I normally hate on world news, in fact I have blocked it for quite a while out of disgust.
But this is a correct call, they did good here. The source is bad, it’s widely known to be propaganda, and its uncritical spread by USA mainstream media is a seen as a massive failure of journalistic integrity.
In other words, if the world news mods see this as a bridge too far, then other pro Israeli people should use caution when passing this blindly.
If one wants to know more about the hostages and what they suffered, read independent Israeli media instead.
This is debunked bullshit propaganda by the Israelis, so YDI.
Great, any links or sources for the debunking?
Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat.
Stop trying to waste our time, hasbara.
Nope.
Newly created account makes drama when called out for being an apologist for a genocidal entity
Newly created account
LOL
makes drama when called out for being an apologist for a genocidal entity
Where exactly was I " an apologist for a genocidal entity" ?
Oh, look… hasbara is butthurt because people weren’t tolerating their white supremacist propaganda.
Yawn.
white supremacist propaganda.
Words have meaning my dude.
Oh, look… hasbara is still butthurt because people weren’t tolerating their white supremacist propaganda.
their white supremacist propaganda.
Words still have meaning.
Oh, look… hasbara just can’t stop being butthurt because people weren’t tolerating their white supremacist propaganda.
Don’t break your arm stroking yourself, bro.
Enjoy it, alone.
I rather live in the real world.
Oh, look… hasbara is now sulking because people weren’t tolerating their white supremacist propaganda.
YDI. It’s Israeli propaganda meant to justify Israel’s ongoing atrocities.
It’s Israeli propaganda
You got any proof of that?
Yes, an independent investigation source would be preferred. This was removed because the investigators were not independent.
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when was the last time israel allowed independent investigations? they’ve been blocking those for years. I’m all for independant investigations of both sides, let’s get the UN investigators all up in israel’s bullshit. not just them, let’s get the ICC in there as well to investigate israel and hamas.
Well Israel has had bad experience with “independent” investigations like the Goldstone report for example turning out to be misleading.
lmao “misleading”, what a bunch of bullshit. there’s a reason israel doesn’t allow investigations or journalists into gaza to document. there’s a reason israel targets journalists for assassination. they don’t want the world to see their crimes against humanity, because their nation relies on welfare from foreign powers since it isn’t capable of surviving on its own. if the people of the nations supporting them see that israel is as bad as the nazis, then that welfare gets cut off.
That’s a good point too. I was lazy and didn’t double check the organisation that ran the investigation.
What’s “independent” .
I am asking because I shared a lot of times reports( about Israel crimes) from middle east focused entities and no one had told me they are not independent.
What’s "independent
Like amnesty which their reports focus on all crimes regardless who commit it. Amnestry has report about israel, russia , iran, china , hamas etc
Amnesty tried to both sides Ukraine war lol
When they report crimes from both hamas and israel does it mean they both side the genocide? It’s job is to report about anybody the agressor and the aggressed, the occupier and the occupied
How does amnesty “remove” abuses?
What abuses did Ukraine a tuallt commit? Didn’t they back track on that once they got called out for being infiltrated by Russia.
I meant report abuses. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians
That doesn’t mean they justify russian agression What is your evidence of russian infiltrating it?
No direct evidence but the sloppiness of the job they did on that report along with timing and how Russia weaponized I dictats to me that they were politically motivated to rush it out
YDI.
You posted a propaganda piece and you are moaning about it being removed as a propaganda piece.
How is this a “Propaganda”?
how is russia saying ukrainians are nazis propaganda? answer one, you answer both.
how is russia saying ukrainians are nazis propaganda?
What are you talking about?
Form a logical sentence, If you want to be taken seriously.
I don’t really care if a fascist takes me seriously. I’d rather they didn’t, makes the end game easier for me.
I was not talking about me, I was talking about us as humans.
Our ability to form a logical sentences and communicate them is one of the things that separates us from monkeys.
Also, what end game are you talking about, thanos?
Have a think.
???
Did you have a think?
How does this relate here?
How does this relate here?
Have a think.
Have a think.
Thank you, I don’t need any drink.
So what where you saying?
Israeli reports.
They are currently trying to ethnically cleanse a whole other group of people. I would take any reports they made about the group they are trying to exterminate with a very large grain of salt.
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“I chatgpt’d some things”
Nobody wants to read the wall of slop you copy-pasted from an LLM
Thanks for your 4th comment on Lemmy to date.
Thanks for your 2893rd comment on Lemmy to date.
I do
I ChadGPT’d a summary of it
ok so the dinah project is this super shady operation run by lawyer types who think theyre spies or something and theyre trying to solve this huge mystery of who did what during some fight and its all very suspicious
heres the thing
- its led by these hardcore legal geeks who probably spend more time arguing about parking tickets than actual crimes and they think theyre above everyone else with their law degrees and stuff
- funded by these mysterious groups who probably just want to look good or get free coffee or something
- claims to be all about stopping sexual violence in war but really its just a big blame game and a way to stir up drama
- they go around talking to the un and other big shots but nobody really knows if theyre trying to fix anything or just cause more problems
- people give them money and it all goes to fancy reports and powerpoint presentations that nobody really reads
so heres my take
basically the dinah project is just a big show with a lot of money and fancy words but does it actually do anything or is it just fueling more political bs who knows and thats the problem with all these so called humanitarian groups they just want to look good and get funding but they dont actually care about solving anything
Damn Dostoevsky! I ain’t reading all that! Can you summarize it further? Maybe over a nightcore background track?
/s
Clearly overreach by the mods LW World News. I am honestly surprised deleted the article.
IMO CNN is not the best source, BBC or AP would have been better, but that doesn’t mean one should automatically delete anything from CNN.
bbc is a Zionist front lol
I wouldn’t go that far. They may have a bias on this issue, but you can hardly call them a Zionist front.
Trying reading news in russian (by russians). That’s what I call an imperialist front, even allegedly liberal, independent russian media occasionally crack and go on pro-imperialist rants.
There was is a famous opposition TV channel (banned in russia since Feb 2022) were the presenter suddenly went on a rant about “how we need to help our poor boys [the invading russian military]”.
It’s all a matter of context and frame of reference. :)
ohh make no mistake BBC is an imperialist front too
They are just heavily doing Zionism currently BC it is in vogue.
What else can you call this? https://www.owenjones.news/p/bbc-staff-were-forced-to-do-pro-israel
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BBC who refused to show two documentaries about gaza suffering and the leadership pushing journalists to spread israeli propaganda ?
It was removed not because the media source was unreliable, but because of the report source.
Quality moderation would have made that clear when there are several different possibilities baked into one rule.
I got it, I posted before I realized this.
YDI. the claims you made are either debunked or lack sufficient evidence (source) I’m not too familiar with AP News but I do know the other three sources you listed are known for promoting IDF / Israel propaganda
Associated Press is usually good. It’s US based but it’s usually unbiased and just reports facts. Their reporters were banned from entering the American presidential jet and palace almost as soon as Trump took office, so that should give an idea as to where AP’s loyalties lay.
They have reported the IDF’s statements as facts in the past though.
Idk how anyone can look at that source, the Dinah project and not see them as propaganda.
How so?
It’s on the front page. Also sealioning is bad.
What part makes it look trustworthy to you?
Oh and the fact it has Gal Godot on the board
Or that they just made a book calling it their report
YDW, you should be fucking banned for trying to excuse genocide.
All those sources are knowm to lie for zionist propaganda. Take your hazbara lies elsewhere. The sea, perhaps, as you walk into it?
I genuinely think better of /worldnews for removing this. The fact they didn’t ban you for advocating violence is evidence they’re still licking boot though.
The sea, perhaps, as you walk into it?
Is this a “kys” straight from 4chan ?
trying to excuse genocide.
Where exactly did I do that?
You are a blight upon the world. Leave.
Leave to where?
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News articles aren’t primary sources
