• JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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    The difference is the programmers know their CEOs will have to come crawling back to get them to fix all the things the LLMs break.

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    It’s kinda a “grass is greener on the other side” situation. There’s vibe coders, yeah, but there’s not a lot of professional programmers that actually uses it

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    rare devils panties L. the vibe coders are a pretty microscopic minority who are being promoted as an anti-employee shareholder psyop.

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      Plenty of programmers who use AI to enhance their workflow. Nothing wrong with letting it create boilerplate code they have written themselves hundreds of times before.

      But the ones using it for vibe coding are very far in the minority. I doubt there is even one that actually has a job as a programmer. Its mainly those that never could code in the first place that are using it for vibe coding.

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    Kinda wish I had social media right now so I could tell DevilsPanties to go fuck themselves.

    CEOs are demanding that programmers use AI, and measuring how much they use it. If they don’t use it enough, they’re in the next round of layoffs. Vibe coders are people who don’t know how to code, and probably aren’t working for a corp.

    Seriously, attacking the workers? Motherfuckers.

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      As someone else said here, programmers are not a monolith. However, I’ve seen it multiple times on the job and in social media where programmers are using these tools to write code voluntarily. The code produced is often garbage, and I have to reject it at review time, but there are a lot of programmers using these things willingly.

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        If a programmer takes AI generated code and uses it without reviewing or correcting it, then that programmer should indeed lose their job.

        But nothing wrong with using AI to make a first draft.

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        The point is how arrogant this comic is. There are as many artists using AI as there are programmers. And acting like all programmers are just accepting it to send themselves “to the bread line” and that artists are somehow above that is arrogant, elitist, bullshit.

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      Weird. I got a totally different read. I’m probably mistaken, but I thought it was suggesting that they were doing malicious compliance by making shitty code that will fail the moment they are no longer maintaining it, so that the corporation will have to bring them back with a consultancy rate.

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      This is correct i have worked with C levels in the past and can tell you. Sometimes they force their workforce to use a product or tech for the sole purpose that they have an investment in it. You ever wonder why your company changed process work flow and application or vendor when the other one worked just fine and the new solution makes your job harder. It because your C level had it in his portfolio and waned to juice the stock.

      Also when it comes to stocks and shareholders it has nothing to do with facts or anything based in reality but just on vibes and perception and the perception is AI make line go up. So it gets pushed on the rest of us.

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        Is lemmy written by ChatGPT, buggy, insecure and unmaintainable? No. So wtf are you trying to say?

        The comic is clearly comparing people that care so much about their work that they protest about it, with an asshole that produces garbage that will end up being a security and privacy nightmare.

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    This one pisses outside the urinal, it’s grossly missing the mark

    On one side the artists who have art as an integral part of their identities and social roles, threatened by Ai, should be paired by the equally dedicated programmers who are threatened by Ai

    The ChatGPT programmers should be paired with Midjourney prompters that so call themselves artists.

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      I think the joke here is that the programmers know just how bad the AI product is and so aren’t fearing for their jobs quite the same way.

      Idk a developer worth their salt who is truly afraid of AI taking their job, because we’ve seen what AI “can do”

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    Absolutely not the case in my experience, but this comic strip has always been a bit weird in my opinion so 🤷‍♂️

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    I’m a programmer, and I’ve heard many programmers advocate for using “AI”. I surround myself with those that reject it (primarily for ethical reasons), but the ones at my last job seemed to like it.

    Anyway, the whole industry has actually been built on vibes for at least a generation. C is bad. JS is worse. We have better languages that had better tooling and better semantics since before either of those were invented, but they were ignored in order to build an edifice to Capital on sand. Since then, the actual computer scientists (that study that branch of mathematics) have made much better languages and done studies to provide evidence they are easier to learn and produce a lower fault rate. That has been consistently ignored.

    Adopting “AI” is just another step before the whole industry collapses, and we restart on better foundations and salvage what is absolutely necessary.

    I don’t know what the next foundation actually is, or how stable it can even be when it’s built on this von Neumann trash instead of a proper Harvard Architecture. /s (I hope the foundation is related to GRTT or QTT.)