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“All these porn sick brain rotted pedo gamer fetishists so desperate to get their hands on rape-my-little-sister incest games they’re now exchanging clues on how to find them so that they don’t all die overnight,” Collective Shout co-founder Melinda Tankard Reist tweeted on July 18th.
She sounds deranged.
i wonder what her own perversion is. It’s likely quite disturbing - nobody has that much anger and scorn over other people’s sex lives and a healthy sex life of their own.
I think she just told us what her thing is, “rape my little sister incest games”
I did think her use of a first person pronoun there was a bit odd, but I didn’t put that together. You might be onto something.
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Looking at porn doesn’t mean you have a porn addiction. It’s also not unhealthy. Playing a porn game also doesn’t mean you have a porn addiction. It’s only an addiction if it affects your life negatively. Porn gives one pleasure and more pleasure is objectively a good thing, unless it affects you in a bad way, like certain kinds of drugs.
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Not only does it make it so people have unrealistic expectation in bed That’s more due to shitty sex ed. A good instructor will state clearly that porn isn’t realistic.
but also there are always victims in porn and the porn industry is full of human trafficking “Always” is a big stretch here. Does it happen? Yes. But not always. And it’s better handled through industry regulation than outright banning. All banning would do is drive it underground and make it even more exploitative
The major point of your argument is just an argument against capitalism.
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What communist countries?
If you generate expectations from what you see in media they are always going to be unrealistic regardless of what it is. Every industry has its share of scum but you cant throw it all out because of bad people doing bad things. The fault lies within those people not the industry.
Source?
Porn is definitely unhealthy
Look at all the countries which block / ban porn.
Now look at women’s rights in those same countries.
I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.
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There’s literally research done on that & it only means porn for men will get banned.
So many of them end up doing this kind of thing because they need money and stuff and never wanted to do it in the first place.
You just described most people doing most jobs.
Pretty sure most people wouldn’t work in whatever job they have if they didn’t need the money.
Likewise, there’s many who likely prefer doing porn over working in fast food or retail. After all, in one you get demeaned, mistreated, even abused, and in the other you get to orgasm for money.
Also if you really think women undressing and doing porn for the pleasure of the men
Way to just say that women and LGBT+ don’t like porn.
Says a lot more about you than anything else you’ve said, bigot.
PS: when the correlation is extremely strong and repeatable, it usually implies causation. There’s already research that proves that link isn’t just correlation. Not that it seems you’re actually interested in data or good faith discussion.
You just described most people doing most jobs.
If your job is honestly comparable to that of a reluctant sex worker, you really need to switch jobs.
Pretty sure most people wouldn’t work in whatever job they have if they didn’t need the money.
Likewise, there’s many who likely prefer doing porn over working in fast food or retail. After all, in one you get demeaned, mistreated, even abused, and in the other you get to orgasm for money.
This is a completly wrong conceptualization. Porn “stars” often are often locked into filming increasingly extreme and often increasingly violent content. Many are left back traumatized for life.
See, for example, this study.
This article challenges the consumer-centric view of pornography, which overlooks the exploitation and abuse of individuals documented in its production. The lack of conceptual clarity surrounding the nature of pornography obscures these abuses, leading to significant consequences for those affecte
Way to just say that women and LGBT+ don’t like porn.
About 70% of consumers are men.
when the correlation is extremely strong and repeatable, it usually implies causation. There’s already research that proves that link isn’t just correlation. Not that it seems you’re actually interested in data or good faith discussion.
Op might or might not be, but i am. Please feel free to back up your claim with data.
If your job is honestly comparable to that of a reluctant sex worker, you really need to switch jobs.
Spoken like someone who’s never struggled.
This is a completly wrong conceptualization. Porn “stars” often are often locked into filming increasingly extreme and often increasingly violent content. Many are left back traumatized for life.
This isn’t the 90s. OnlyFans creators aren’t beholden to an agency, which the paper you linked to mentions about.
About 70% of consumers are men.
30% is still pretty damn big, especially in context of how many human adults there are. That’s still a potential of over a billion people by rough estimate based off a set of 4 billion.
Please feel free to back up your claim with data.
Looking through the comments here, it seems you already have been, but still don’t care.
Porn is definitely unhealthy
No, it’s not. Who told you that?
This is we can’t have nice things.
Nice things like games involving incest and rape?
Sir: If it’s illegal, please notify the authorities. If it’s not illegal, then I’ll have to politely ask you to fuck off.
That logic falls apart real fast. Hitting children, for example. Legal, but is it right?
Some places have legal laws that are horrifying. You can see the other implementation of your logic there. Like, is being gay a bad thing, as long as it is illegal?
I have no obligation to follow your moral compass - which is nothing more than your opinion. The only common denominator binding both of us, is codified law.
Ah, the german approach (used mainly between 1934 and 1945) 😉
That’s a very bad and weird choice of words. Other than that, banning rape-games is not a bad idea, especially from mainstream platforms, though i guess it’s not the biggest problem for women’s rights right now.
I don’t know how Collective Shout aren’t seen as more of a pariah group here like Westboro Baptist Church are in America.
I’m so sorry everyone
Alright, time to research and rat these idiots out. The fact that they tried to ban Detroit: Become Human is enough for me to know that they’re not gamers at all and are just cookers.
I’m trying to follow the money and can’t find much but there are very strong ties to the Christian/Baptist community, which means that there is an above 0% chance that Advance Australia has or is providing funding.
Their partners and partner’s partners are anti-sex (such as CATWA who believe that all prostitution is not a job but is a form of sex trafficking and appears to be against the sex industry), anti-abortion, and all board members and their associated partners are very painfully white.
There’s also an association with the NCJWA, whose president appears to be pro Zionist and has lauded Jillian Segal as a voice of moral clarity (anti-semetic envoy for government pushing to reduce protest rights, husband made a $50k donation to Advance Australia).
Hilariously, one of their partners is called ‘Campaign Against Sex Robots’.
Anyway, in summary, this appears to be a very well funded right wing puritan religious group whose only games experiences are in the political realm rather than PC.
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Collective shout finacials year: 2024 revenue: 458043 employee_expenses: 107000 other_expenses: 215488 net_surplus: 135555 employees: total_fte: 2 full_time: 0 part_time: 1 casual: 4 volunteers: 15 donations_and_bequests: 389800 government_grants: 0 commercial_income: 0 expense_to_revenue_ratio: "70.4%" average_expense_per_employee: 39400 Leadership - name: Melinda Tankard Reist role: Founder, Movement Director public_socials: - Twitter: @MelTankardReist - Instagram: @collective.shout public_email_address: Not publicly listed salary: Not publicly listed - name: Caitlin Roper role: Campaigns Manager public_socials: - Instagram: @collective.shout public_email_address: Not publicly listed salary: Not publicly listed - name: Renee Chopping role: Campaigns Strategy public_socials: - LinkedIn public_email_address: r******@collectiveshout.org salary: Not publicly listed - name: Lyn Swanson Kennedy role: Campaigns Strategy public_socials: - Instagram: @collective.shout public_email_address: Not publicly listed salary: Not publicly listed - name: Coralie Alison role: Movement Operations Manager public_socials: - Twitter: @CoralieAlison - Instagram: @collective.shout public_email_address: Not publicly listed salary: Not publicly listedIm personally tired of all this incest shit everywhere so I’m down for it.
It’s the wrong way to go about it though. Private companies should not dictate legality and morality.
I wouldn’t mind if Valve did. It’s the unaccountable payment processors deciding morality that’s spooky, because there’s no meaningful alternative.
Oh yeah, I agree. That is what I meant to meant to say. The payment processors are acting like a cartel here.
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It’d be kind of funny if some rep from steam just came out and said, ‘Wait, the Aussies wanted this? Put it all back! Add on a few more new ones even. This won’t stand.’
All I wanna know is how fucked up and perverted the porn that they watch is. Anyone taking this hard of a stand against something surely must be projecting.
People are blaming Collective Shout but crazy lobbying groups have always existed. Visa and Mastercard are solely responsible for acquiescing. Maybe it’s time we stop caring so much what people on the political extremes have to say?
