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Honestly, it should be the other way around.
What?
One explores a wide range of hard hitting social issues wrapped up in classic episodic sci-fi short stories, and the other has a magic crying space baby and flying on tardigrades through mushrooms in space.
Discovery has lots of cringe, but I find that very realistic, because most people IRL are super cringe as well.
The characters were never the problem with Disco, the writing was the problem.
Also the mushroom drive, I feel like the mushroom drive was a problem.
Characters are their writing combined with their performance.
The Orville has no right to be better star trek than most star trek projects
