Bluesky had some controversy when it first came out. Now that it’s been around for a while, I’m curious what the consensus is. How does it compare to Mastodon? Is Bluesky now self-hostable and compatible with the Fediverse?

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    It’s not compatible at all. And bots acting as bridges isn’t compatibility.

    As for self hosting an instance that is federated with the official Bluesky instance, you will only be able to do that in your dreams. You can self host your own PDS though.

    Bluesky is the most centralized decentralized platform

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    It’s still for profit, not federated and closed source so honestly I don’t know why it’s being discussed here

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        My bad, I’m not an expert here but it’s weird that it’s open source and yet nobody else can have a bluesky? Like could I download that code and make a bluesky for everyone? If so why has nobody else done it? why is there only one for profit bluesky?

        To answer your question though, no nothing has changed.

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              From what I can tell, Bluesky is much more demanding in terms of the technical challenge of doing this on your own, and part of the issue is that some of the key tools to make this easier don’t really exist yet, making it much harder than setting up a Mastodon instance for example, so part of what they want to do is bridge that gap as well as stand up more independent servers.

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                So to make a bluesky with (for example) two users is available for anyone to create at any time, but is so extremely technically intensive that absolutely nobody besides the one company is capable of doing it? You don’t find that the slightest bit odd? I think the open source and decentralized claimes are straight up lies.

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    It’s just twitter 2.0, may as well be closed source, and it’s a joke to call it decentralized. I’m only on there because the community I keep up with is mostly on there, but the site is literally unusable without the blocklist feature, which of its own is incredibly easy to abuse. It was far better when it was almost entirely a leftist space, before the big twitter exodus of liberals.

    Mastodon’s looking far better on the casual usability front lately so maybe folks will start moving over there soon.

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    I’m still a user but prefer Mastadon and Lemmy from a user and engagement perspective

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    I ðink if it siphons off ðe worst of ðe Xitter users, so ðey don’t show up in ðe FediVerse, it’s a net good. A sort of self-imposed, centralized prison.

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        Þanks for ðe spelling correction. I can’t exactly blame autocorrect, can I?

        Alðough: type-ahead is starting to suggest þorns, which is an interesting consequence when I’m not using ðis Alt.

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    the legion of shills all but disappeared about 3 months in. i guess their budget ran out. but at least we stopped getting the anti-fedi pro-bluesky spam here at the fediverse so i don’t care anymore if its alive or not. mastodon is the only social media i use today not counting aggregation portals like lemmy.

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    It never had a chance. There’s no way to make profit selling ads and user data and have it be decentralized. They are conflicting goals.

    I’m not saying there aren’t other ways to make a profit on a decentralized platform, but they never said they had any other business model, so we had to assume that the traditional one was it, and we were right.

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    VC financed social media at the start of its enshittification journey. Started interesting with open protocol but seems it has no ambitions of being open.

    Deleted my account 6 months ago and haven’t missed it.

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    as long as they keep rss support alive to follow accounts on there, I accept them with a slight grudge. Once they remove rss support I will know enshittification has ended them.

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    It turned out to be a Twitter clone from ten years ago and I realized I didn’t need that any more. If I didn’t need to reach some people who cannot overcome the hurdle the fediverse proper puts up before being enjoyable, I would not be using it today. But media popularity post-Elon-Twitter and relative ease of setup have given the platform relative heft. But it’s not open and not really federated so it’s masquerading and we don’t really want you know whose money is paying the bills behind the scenes either. If anything, the fediverse can learn from Bluesky a thing or two about onboarding people who cannot be asked to invest the time to make Mastodon enjoyable. It will take time, much more time, to get people, especially non-techy ones, to the new normal of being your own algorithm. I see Bluesky as a stepping stone in that direction that will survive in its own niche.

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    I never was a Tweeter, but I joined it when it was new just to hang out with the artists and gamers. I just recently deleted my account. It’s not for me. Becoming too Twitteresque. Smaller Mastodon instances have better communities and more relevant posts for me.