I wouldn’t want violence to be the answer to anything, but if balanced and appropriate force is needed to safely retrieve your property, then you should be protected by law.
For example, if you’re going to get your stolen bike back, you should be 100% legally protected if the dickwad who stole is needs to be restrained (for your safety), or if their backyard gate needs to be broken open.
And if the dickwad decides to use violence, you should be 100% protected for using self-defence.
The caveat, of course, is that you better be damn sure that someone is in possession of your property, and that appropriate force, if necessary, is used.
If it turns out that you violated someone’s rights or broke into the wrong property, you should have to face consequences.
Canada’s self defense laws are garbage; we have a duty to retreat, so if you go looking for your stolen property and have to defend yourself, you’re getting in trouble for it.
But I do realize you were talking about what the laws should be, not what they are
I fully support citizens stepping in to fight crime if they are willing and able.
If you knew where your stolen property was, you should have automatic legal protection for whatever it takes to get it back.
It’s crazy to have a taxpayer funded criminal and legal system that isn’t working for them.
As long as you do get any rights to use violence, I absolutely agree.
I wouldn’t want violence to be the answer to anything, but if balanced and appropriate force is needed to safely retrieve your property, then you should be protected by law.
For example, if you’re going to get your stolen bike back, you should be 100% legally protected if the dickwad who stole is needs to be restrained (for your safety), or if their backyard gate needs to be broken open.
And if the dickwad decides to use violence, you should be 100% protected for using self-defence.
The caveat, of course, is that you better be damn sure that someone is in possession of your property, and that appropriate force, if necessary, is used.
If it turns out that you violated someone’s rights or broke into the wrong property, you should have to face consequences.
Canada’s self defense laws are garbage; we have a duty to retreat, so if you go looking for your stolen property and have to defend yourself, you’re getting in trouble for it.
But I do realize you were talking about what the laws should be, not what they are
Yeah, self defense is about defending yourself, and not your stuff.