A woman wants a change in the law after her cat was killed by a loose dog.
Jess Rozee’s cat Kitty was killed where she lives in Swindon - she said CCTV footage shows her pet being chased, chewed, shaken then left still just alive by two men with the dog.
Ms Rozee has started a petition that so far has 7,000 signatures on it, asking to make it an offence for a person’s dog to kill another pet, by prosecuting owners.
So she let her cat loose just like the dog was loose? She should have been a responsible owner and kept it inside
Did you read the article?
The dog was out on a walk, with the owners, there’s literally no excuse for an untrained dog not being on a leash. The dog owners then left her obviously injured cat to die rather than getting it veterinary care.
That’s a real dumbly over simplified false equivalency.
Should be on a leash no matter what. You don’t know what’s going to cause it to run.
So?
Feral cats are a thing, and there was a loose cat, that’s worse than an off leash dog, which may not be illegal there. But at an at large cat is always illegal.
So you want someone who was maybe doing nothing illegal to be responsible for someone who was without a doubt doing something illegal?
Does that make any sense to you…?
Feral cats are a thing, and there was a loose cat, that’s worse than an off leash dog, way may not be illegal there. But at an at large cat is always illegal.
Wtf are you talking about?
Every city has them, how do you not know what a feral cat is lmfao. They even out number domesticated by a ratio of 3:1….
Of the 700 million cats in the world, an estimated 480 million are feral.
I understand what feral cats are, just not your abomination of a sentence.
I fixed my single typo that didn’t affect the overall context of my comment, by the time you responded, but of course trolls ignore that to justify being like this. So only you and your quote show that.
Get help dude.
Lol if there was just a single typo then your point itself must have been nonsense.
A loose cat is not worse than an off leash dog, a loose house cat is not the same thing as a feral cat, and a loose cat is not illegal.
Lol yea if your definition of a feral cat is a jaguar maybe…
Do common terms usually confuse you like this?
seems to confuse you more buddy
If she kept the cat inside. It would not be dead. Cats do not need to go outside.
I support this. My 20 lb dog has been attacked multiple times by off-leash dogs, and luckily I’ve been able to step in and fight them off without much injury beyond a broken wrist, but I’m terrified of the day that I don’t succeed. We need more accountability for idiots who think “my dog needs to run so I’m just going to let him off leash in a public park!” instead of taking them to the dog park which exists for that purpose.
Also, cats belong inside unless they’re working (barn cats etc.).
I see the issue, but i dont think she is prepared for the consequences. Her cat probably killed a bunch of animals in its life. Cats are the No 2 bird killer after glass windows afaik. Yes we should ban pitbulls but that also wont save your cat. Its just gonna get run over instead. Dont let your animals run free if you dont want them to die.
Her cat probably killed a bunch of animals in its life.
**may have. Not all cats are birders.
And no, despite what paranoid terminally online people will tell you, not all outdoor pets are destined to be run over.
not all outdoor pets are destined to be run over.
yeah some get eaten by coyotes. valid point I guess.
England doesn’t have coyotes. Let me guess, your an American applying your American perspective unilaterally to the world?
No foxes? Badgers? You think they only have one predator?
Lmao, neither are known for attacking and hunting adult cats.
But do keep desperately making up bullshit rather than doing an ounce of research yourself.
Neither are coyotes as well… but it does happen and especially when their food supplies are dwindled, by like say outdoor cats?
Yes, coyotes do naturally prey on cats.
Again, stop making up bullshit to justify your flawed points.
Here’s a hint, before saying a “fact”, try googling it to see if it is.
The infamous English coyotes
sorry, chavs
The thing is to uur pets are supposed to stay in your property. Is there a city where it’s legal to let your car roam.
This is not the case. It is legal for cats to roam virtually everywhere.
In the UK under the Animals Act 1971, cats are “free-spirits” meaning they “cannot be held guilty of trespass under civil law and, therefore, their owners or keepers cannot be liable for any damage done”.
Hypocrites if they want dogs held accountable, but not their own animal. Yet cats are known to cause devastation to all local wildlife, they also spread diseases in gardens, they live shorter unhealthier lives since they pick up all sorts of other bacteria and viruses.
It’s quite frankly inhumane to let cats free, and it’s wild that there’s a place that won’t hold their owners accountable for the property damage they inevitably cause.
cats are known to cause devastation to all local wildlife
I’m pretty sure the RSPCB disproved this years ago, at least for birds, but I can’t find that study.
they also spread diseases in gardens
So can foxes, badgers, rats etc. Most cats are vaccinated annually against diseases and will go to the vet for checkups regularly, therefore the risk is much lower.
they live shorter unhealthier lives
Shorter? Sure, but not because of disease. Traffic is a much bigger problem, letting cats outside in cities or near busy roads is a far greater risk to their lifespan and I would never recommend someone to do that. Claiming they live unhealthier lives is wrong too. An outdoor cat can get so much more exercise than an indoor cat ever could, reducing obesity (as long as it’s not grifting for food with every other household nearby, which is rare).
It’s quite frankly inhumane to let cats free
It is much more humane in the UK (which is where I am and where the petition is) to let cats outside, and let them enjoy fresh air every day, discover new smells, socialise with other animals, and generally be so much happier, than trapping them inside from when they’re a kitten until they either die miserable, or escape and find an owner who will take care of them properly.
it’s wild that there’s a place that won’t hold their owners accountable for the property damage they inevitably cause.
Have you ever met a cat? It is extremely hard to control what they do, and the law recognises that. Theoretically, a judge could rule that cats are under the same category as dogs, but a cat would first have to do as much damage as a dog could do. Only one legal case got close. where the cat “got into Mrs. W. ‘s, fiat ate mincepies and fish, got on to a bed, and scratched the bedpost”. The judge sided with the cat owner.
Most places have updated their laws as new informations come out in the last 50 years
The UK has too, see the Animal Welfare Act 2006.
Those laws aren’t even based on scientific studies I believe. It’s all “feel good”.
The RSPCA and other organisations like them conduct studies and campaign for the law to be updated accordingly. The UK is one of the top countries for animal welfare as per World Animal Protection, and is significantly better than the USA.
It says: "The RSPB takes public concern about cat predation seriously and promotes measures to reduce the vulnerability of garden birds to predation by cats.
Lmfao, no, they were lying before and have now admitted. Yeesh.
Fair enough, I was wondering why I couldn’t find that.
Vermin and insects are beneficial for nature too, not just birds are the issue….
Lmfao. Bruh, ban mouse and rat traps then.
Cats are literally domesticated pets because humans in urban settings need to constantly kill mice and rats.
Those are selective…. A cat isn’t, not even close to being comparable.
Outside in a city? You mean rural, farms are rural. For urban you would use traps like you suggested…? Or does the same not apply back? You can use a cat indoors for your own personal use of course.
Outside in a city? You mean rural, farms are rural. For urban you would use traps like you suggested…?
I mean areas where we store food and grain, which is everywhere humans live, not just farms.
There’s a reason cats are known even for going on old timely sailing ships. We have used them for micing and ratting forever, because we need to constantly kill mice and rats.
Cities these days have dedicated programs for killing rodents. It’s insane to be like ‘cats are destroying the mouse and rat population’ when they are thriving.
Ah yes, all enclosed areas where the cats don’t affect the wildlife itself…
You know that owners put bells on cats for a reason right?
And the point is that if we’re mass killing rodents, then cats doing so for us is not a problem.
I agree, but that part wouldn’t apply because birds aren’t pets (unless someone let out their bird, which I don’t think happens, but in that case yeah it should apply).
This should be an offence, I hate seeing people with dogs that they can’t even control on a leash, it’s a danger to everyone and maybe this would make people think again about getting an upgraded pit bull terrier with max enchantments.
Also I would never let a cat outside without full supervision, they have become an invasive species basically (as u mention) killing off lots of other animals whenever they are out (but this should still be an offence if it was killed by someones dog, etc and the other way round).
I’ll never understand the downvotes from people who willing allow their cats to get killed by letting them roam free without any supervision. beyond stupid they are. it’s neglect and animal abuse. nothing less.
I await lawsuits from Bird #1 through Bird #25, are they filing a class action? That would probably take up less of the courts time
Not pets so there might be no legality
Were any of those birds endangered or threatened species?
I dont know at that point it would be a case by case basis
Alternatively: public domain pets
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So one loose animal kills another and she wants to accept no responsibility for her actions that lead to this either?
Feral cats are an issue in a lot of municipalities, for tall they know they just stopped one from devastating local wildlife. If not even domesticated cats do it too, so still better for the local wildlife.
Dont let mittens run wild, only bad things can and will happen, in fact you’re killing them faster, indoor cats live significantly longer healthier lives, so stop letting them out.
letting them out is fine, leash them AND watch them.
I honestly do not understand the stupidity people have when it comes to cats other then they are all infected with Toxoplasma gondii and their brains are warped to just like cats and they dismiss anything logical like how they abuse cats by letting mittens roam free. yes, it’s animal abuse and anyone who has outdoor cats in a city environment should be charged with neglect the same way if you left them in a hot car.
