Why does patreon even need to be an app? What value does the app bring that the website can’t deliver?
There are a lot of people out there that will not use a website and only use an app for things. I’m willing to bet there’s some users of patreon on ios that don’t even know there is a website.
OnlyFans doesn’t have an app but they’re still in business. We must educate people about not relying on apps for everything.
It doesn’t have an app because it can’t, not because it wouldn’t benefit from it.
I would argue Patreon cannot have an app on the App Store as it would cause them to mess up their (and the users’) business models… 30% is huge !!! I am baffled by why they would bend to Apple instead of upgrading their website.
lots of people caught mobile brain rot
Is it? A native mobile application (not a web view/PWA) will always be massively better as a user experience than anything a website can provide.
People who use apps do so because they’ve learned from experience that an app is far better UX than the website version, and they’re not always right, but they’re not wrong most of the time.
If anything, web apps are the real modernity brainrot.
Ah, damn.
Does this mean Patreon too will have two tiers of billing system: standard billing via the Web and slightly higher prices if done in app. I think if one purchases a YouTube Premium membership in app on iOS, it costs more than when done via the site.
Yes, that’s exactly what they’re doing. If you have a Patreon, you must choose between increasing patreon price on Apple specifically compared to Android and Web, or you can keep the price the same, in which case you will earn less from users using iOS in-app purchase
Unfortunately, I think you hit the nail on the head. Apple knows this too. Also, unfortunate for those Apple-sheep 🙄
Notifications of new content are nice.
There’s this ancient standard called email
RSS is better suited for this.
There’s also web push. You can send push notifications straight to someone’s browser, no need for a dedicated app anymore. Not sure if patreon has implemented this, but they could if they wanted to.
Email 🤮
Bad enough I have to use that shit at work, I’m not using it unless I absolutely have to.
EDIT: holy shit I didn’t expect this to get downvotes. What’s the reason?
As if anyone doesn’t immediately unsubscribe from email notifications or totally ignore them.
Then why do they want app notifications ? It’s even worse than email, all those red squares with numbers and sounds drive me insane, and i can not keep a particular piece of content with me for later re-reading (like i can archive an email). If people just unsubscribe from emails they do not want to receive, and spam those that keep invading, the mail box will be functional in no time, and people can also just create a 2nd email and download a 2nd email app for hobbys and news (several have a gmail and a hotmail at least).
You’d have to ask them. In my opinion, app notifications are ephemeral. I can dismiss them and I don’t care. While emails should be important. I don’t want to soft through a bunch of useless junk when I’m looking for important stuff like bank statements or whatever.
Background play of exclusive podcasts for one thing. I suppose that might be possible in a browser but playing media from a media player app instead of a browser is certainly going to be a better experience.
They should just take the route BandCamp takes and tell you to go to the website to make purchases
Just offer file downloads. I swear the society is regressing technologically speaking (not aiming at you OP)
Every podcast I support on Patreon provides a link that you can plug into your podcatcher to subscribe. I don’t need the Patreon app to listen to the podcast then, just Pocket Casts or whatever I’m using for all my podcasts.
Even the video links are YouTube links.
I don’t doubt that the app makes life easier in some ways, but the website works just fine.
stop using apple products people
Apple needs to be regulated
Glad I only use the website
Fuck Apple. They deserve 0%.
They should be paying app developers to stay on their platform. Fuck this sick duopoly.
Grats to Patreon and/or the EU for the easy payday🎉
Why don’t they just do what Kindle does? Say that you can no longer subscribe from the application and to subscribe from the site?
Apple has explicit rules against redirecting customers to other sites for payment. I think they have a special deal with Amazon for that wording.
Easy solution: the app only redirects you to the website via browser intent.
That is no good with Apple policy.
App cannot tell user that they get better deal anywhere.
So wait, Apple effectively mandates that users of their store lie to their users? Wonder if that’s something that can be tackled legally.
Get this, they don’t allow that either. There are multiple clips from LTT talking about dumb things like this that Apple doesn’t allow
From my understanding, thats also very much not allowed on the app store, and is something they check for.
EU to the rescue?
Hold up (fta):
By this November, all creators can only offer a subscription-based plan on iOS as the app store doesn’t support other formats, such as first-of-the-month or per-creation plans. As a result, Patreon is rolling out a 16-month-long migration process that will shift all memberships to subscriptions by November 2025. At that point, subscription-based plans will be the only option available, unfortunately proving Apple’s far-reaching power.
I’m unclear on what this means: is Patreon eliminating first-of-the-month and per-creation plans on ALL platforms? Or just on Apple platforms?
Because using a web browser is soo 1994
They removed this feature from web browsers too. Not just the app.
