This was exactly my first thought, too :-)

No, because these cheap EVs from China are essentially cheap because of slave-like forced labour.

My or any government other than China’s have nothing to do when Chinese firms ignore safety, labor and other regulations. This is pure whataboutery.

Done.

As an addition:

Sex-selective abortions over the past four decades in China – (Study, published February 2025)

China now faces multiple challenging demographic and public policy problems that have emerged from four decades of sex-selective induced abortions […] The annual proportions and number of selective abortions [meaning that female fetuses were aborted much more often than males] rose in the 1980s with the strict family planning policy […] In China, the long-standing preference for sons, easy access to sex-selective technologies, and the spontaneous fertility decline have led to the continued practice of selectively aborting female fetuses, despite its prohibition. As a result, the imbalanced sex ratio may take years to normalize.

As an addition:

Sex-selective abortions over the past four decades in China – (Study, published February 2025)

China now faces multiple challenging demographic and public policy problems that have emerged from four decades of sex-selective induced abortions […] The annual proportions and number of selective abortions [meaning that female fetuses were aborted much more often than males] rose in the 1980s with the strict family planning policy […] In China, the long-standing preference for sons, easy access to sex-selective technologies, and the spontaneous fertility decline have led to the continued practice of selectively aborting female fetuses, despite its prohibition. As a result, the imbalanced sex ratio may take years to normalize.

As an addition:

Sex-selective abortions over the past four decades in China – (Study, published February 2025)

China now faces multiple challenging demographic and public policy problems that have emerged from four decades of sex-selective induced abortions […] The annual proportions and number of selective abortions [meaning that female fetuses were aborted much more often than males] rose in the 1980s with the strict family planning policy […] In China, the long-standing preference for sons, easy access to sex-selective technologies, and the spontaneous fertility decline have led to the continued practice of selectively aborting female fetuses, despite its prohibition. As a result, the imbalanced sex ratio may take years to normalize.

Zhu Hengpeng, who worked for a Chinese government thinktank for more than 20 years, disappeared a few months ago after making disparaging remarks on China’s economy, including the GDP growth and other metrics. You’ll find ample evidence for this.

Gemini says source of claim is …

Thanks for this. If you don’t have better sources than Gemini, I end this discussion.

Hateful warmongering against China has forced it on a “delete America” program. This is opportunity for Canada. Divisiveness from US is needed instead of evil against China.

Your comments are outright wrong. This is not hateful warmongering, I am offering simple facts. The 5% growth rate in China is most likely wrong. Even one of China’s leading economists recently claimed that growth rates in the country are more around 2% (he has since disappeared).

A lot of China’s EV manufacturers already went bankrupt or ceased production in recent years due to fierce price wars, but the country has still a huge overcapacity, and we see the same pattern in practically all other industries.

(To use your language: just look at the numbers instead of repeating the Chinese propaganda absurdity.)

Extremely shameful and destructive for the lacks of talks between Canada and China. Tariffs were put on with not even a phone call, as Sulivan met with Trudeau one weekend.

Talks between Canada and China have been going on all the time, but China doesn’t appear to listen. The government in Beijing ordered Chinese companies to overproduce -EVs and other products- as they think this is the only way to support their troubled economy. They make decisions in complete disregard of anyone else. I don’t say tariffs or other protectionist measure are a good thing, but a free competitive market only works if everyone plays according to the rules. China doesn’t.

No one wants and needs ‘affordable’ EVs made with slavery-like labour.

China set for rapeseed meal shortage after 100% duty on top supplier Canada

China is likely to face a supply shortage of rapeseed meal by the third quarter of this year as Beijing’s tariffs on shipments from top exporter Canada disrupt trade and as alternative sources are unlikely to make up the deficit […]

Rapeseed is an oilseed crop which is processed into oil for cooking and a variety of other products, including renewable fuels, while the remaining rapeseed meal is used as high-protein animal feed and fertilizer […]

China relies on top grower Canada for more than 70% of its rapeseed meal imports and nearly all of the oilseed imports. Rapeseed is also known as canola […]

@Fleur_@hilariouschaos.com

People with this attitude of policing “off topic discussion” can go fuck themselves.

Thank you for your opinion, Elon.

@Fleur_

I would have 0 problems if my government were to vastly increase its investment in housing even at the expense of the environment.

!?

The environmental problems in China due to ghost cities have nothing to do with homelessness in China nor in the US.

Downvote for whataboutery.

there are between 20 million and 65 million empty houses in China, enough to house entire countries. This is a big problem, both economically and environmentally

The sheer size of it is a problem apparently. You can’t just quote something out of context.

Chinese feminists continue to resist amidst repression 30 years after Beijing Conference on Women

[…] at the Fourth World Conference on Women in 1995 […] governments, including China, pledged to take concrete actions to advance gender equality and women’s rights. However, thirty years later, the landscape for women’s rights advocacy in China has changed drastically […]

Feminist activists and women human rights defenders (WHRDs) face increasing State repression [in China], including censorship, surveillance, arbitrary detention, harassment, and politically motivated charges. Broader movements such as the #MeToo movement, which was inspired by global efforts to expose sexual harassment and gender-based violence, have been targeted by a government that refuses to yield space for any form of organising or an independent civil society […]

The crackdown on women activists is exemplified by the ongoing persecution of Huang Xueqin and He Fangmei, both of whom remain unjustly detained. Huang Xueqin, a journalist and key #MeToo activist, was sentenced to five years in prison following a secret trial. Meanwhile, He Fangmei, a vaccine safety advocate, was sentenced to five years and six months, and her children’s whereabouts remain unknown after being taken by authorities […]

Chinese feminists continue to resist amidst repression 30 years after Beijing Conference on Women

[…] at the Fourth World Conference on Women in 1995 […] governments, including China, pledged to take concrete actions to advance gender equality and women’s rights. However, thirty years later, the landscape for women’s rights advocacy in China has changed drastically […]

Feminist activists and women human rights defenders (WHRDs) face increasing State repression [in China], including censorship, surveillance, arbitrary detention, harassment, and politically motivated charges. Broader movements such as the #MeToo movement, which was inspired by global efforts to expose sexual harassment and gender-based violence, have been targeted by a government that refuses to yield space for any form of organising or an independent civil society […]

The crackdown on women activists is exemplified by the ongoing persecution of Huang Xueqin and He Fangmei, both of whom remain unjustly detained. Huang Xueqin, a journalist and key #MeToo activist, was sentenced to five years in prison following a secret trial. Meanwhile, He Fangmei, a vaccine safety advocate, was sentenced to five years and six months, and her children’s whereabouts remain unknown after being taken by authorities […]

Chinese feminists continue to resist amidst repression 30 years after Beijing Conference on Women

[…] at the Fourth World Conference on Women in 1995 […] governments, including China, pledged to take concrete actions to advance gender equality and women’s rights. However, thirty years later, the landscape for women’s rights advocacy in China has changed drastically […]

Feminist activists and women human rights defenders (WHRDs) face increasing State repression [in China], including censorship, surveillance, arbitrary detention, harassment, and politically motivated charges. Broader movements such as the #MeToo movement, which was inspired by global efforts to expose sexual harassment and gender-based violence, have been targeted by a government that refuses to yield space for any form of organising or an independent civil society […]

The crackdown on women activists is exemplified by the ongoing persecution of Huang Xueqin and He Fangmei, both of whom remain unjustly detained. Huang Xueqin, a journalist and key #MeToo activist, was sentenced to five years in prison following a secret trial. Meanwhile, He Fangmei, a vaccine safety advocate, was sentenced to five years and six months, and her children’s whereabouts remain unknown after being taken by authorities […]