Not true. Starlink are in a very low orbit and regularly (1 or 2 a day) will simply burn up themselves as they fall out of orbit.

Not to be mean, but I think you’re approaching this from a place of pretty immense privilege, where it’s possible to sidestep the fact that the “stability” and social care you’re talking about are materially predicated on the largest, most advanced, and most comprehensive immiseration machine in human history, currently headed by the US and enforced by its hunting dogs.

I understand what you’re saying about intent, but I think you’re putting far too much weight on intent and far too little on material outcomes. From the perspective of people in the periphery, whether harm is done out of malice, fear, or ignorance doesn’t change the harm itself. The status quo imposed by the imperial core is anything but neutral; it is actively sustained through extraction, coercion, and violence, regardless of how polite or well-meaning its defenders may be.

The claim that Liberal voters “aren’t thinking about” neocolonialism doesn’t really mitigate anything. Apathy and ignorance aren’t accidental flaws of the system, they’re systematically reinforced. Liberal politics trains people to narrow their moral horizon to national borders and to treat global suffering as unfortunate but external. Wanting stability at home while refusing to interrogate how that stability is financed is still a political choice, even if it feels passive or unavoidable.

I’m about to make an inflammatory comparison, and before it’s taken the wrong way I want to be clear that I’m not calling you, or Liberal voters, Nazis of any kind.

What I’m pointing to is a similar moral logic to the “clean Wehrmacht,” but applied to liberalism: the idea that all the real harm belongs to the obvious villains, while those who uphold the same system in a more moderate, respectable way are merely ignorant, apolitical, or trying their best. That framing launders responsibility. It treats liberal participation as an unfortunate accident rather than a core function.

From the standpoint of those who live with the consequences of your stability, calling it “misguided but not bad” reads as a refusal to take structural violence seriously.

I am talking about how the status quo of the entirety of the imperial core is built on and sustained by the pillaging and superxploitation of the periphery through imperialism and neocolonialism.

The status quo is bad if you view us of the periphery as equal humans whose suffering matters the same as you.

What party line? It’s the truth? He’s in the Epstein files begging to go “party” on the island. He hit multiple nazi salutes on camera. It’s not a line it’s a statement of fact Elon Musk is a nazi pedophile.

Bad faith is when people point out my idol is fucking evil.

In the sense that you know it it isn’t real. Its simply a system that stops those in debt who can’t/refuse to pay it back from buying luxuries like five-star hotel rooms and first-class seats on trains. You can still buy coach and standard rooms just not luxuries. I don’t know all the specifics as I’m neither a lawyer nor have I had to deal with it personally.

Him being a nazi pedophile is probably what most people take issue with.

Russia isn’t imperialist. Imperialism isn’t when invasion or when big country is bad

Authoritarian is a useless pejorative as every nation that has been or currently is is “authoritarian”.

I directly quoted you. You said and again I quote

Tankies thinking they are true left never stops to entertain me

Why continue to humiliate yourself by just lying when it’s publicly available?

You are not a serious person at all clearly.

Tankies thinking they are true left never stops to entertain me

I didnt define anything

You clearly imply “tankies” aren’t real leftists. Stop lying.

Also a Chinese person using Chinese characters is wrong? Nice racism.

You’re a loser.

Using tankie in the modern age just shows how unserious you are. Also who are you to decide what real leftism is? Where is your party? Where is your revolution? Where is your theory and practice?

Typical 白左

You have read nothing I wrote. You twisted to talking about China and Canada when that was never the topic. You are either a complete fool or have been arguing in bad faith from the beginning (most likely a bit from a and a bit from b) I hope you reflect and better yourself in the future.

What made you think I was Canadian? I never claimed to be? What the fuck are you talking about? I’m Chinese in China all my life. I would never want to be a white settler colonist American dog Canadian. Your country is founded on war crimes and genocide. After world war 2 Canada accepted anyone who had an SS tattoo. Canada like America is a Nazi state who perpetuate the largest immiseration machine in human history on the global south 24/7. I will never stop saying death to Amerikkka, death to Kkklanada, death to the imperial core until my brother’s and sisters of the global South are emancipated and liberated from the brutal imperial and neocolonial machine. You can be offended by that but know that your offense comes from your immense privilege, all your treats your “social democracy” is funded and built upon the mass pillaging of the global south and extraction of superprofits. Read a book and stop being such an arrogant insufferable privileged liberal. You know nothing of our struggles, nothing of our beliefs, nothing of our lives and you don’t want to know because it’s easier to just wallow in centrism providing endless “critique” with no action or solutions.

Ah ok thank you

That’s for Chairman Mao and I would largely agree with that however I meant more for the new China as a whole. China continues to be imperfect but as I said I believe the real debate is the semantics of how far the good outweighs the bad as opposed to are they good or bad currently.

China itself just like Chairman Mao is imperfect but I strongly believe the merits out way the wrongs and the real question isn’t is China good or bad but by how much the good out ways the bad e.g. is it 60/40, 70/30, 80/20 etc.

If it’s your first time Beijing is a must. You get a perfect mix of the old and new china plus museums galore and old Beijing hotpot is a must try as well as proper Beijing duck.

I directly linked the report? Are you blind as well as an idiotic racist bastard?

Edelman is an american capitalist consulting firm no Chinese influence that you’re so scared of (chauvinist). Showing your ass as in you are showing how uneducated you are. English obviously isn’t my first language again you being a fucking chauvinist loser.

Edelman

Page 6 US western capitalist firm and plenty of others. Again showing your ass.