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  • stoicmaverick@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlChoice
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    4 days ago

    That was obviously the extreme example of the concept taken to its limit, I was hoping you would follow me on the whole length of the walk. How about the example of starting false rumors and such about them? How about the fact that what you’re talking about is illegal in and of itself? Playing dirty is immensely gratifying, and satisfying on a visceral level; I’m not trying to pretend that it isn’t. I don’t like it either, but it is their legal right to have that. The whole reason we don’t like them is that they lack the moral restraint that usually develops sometime around middle school, and the importance of which I’m trying to instill. I could write a whole book based around the thesis that the primary difference between the two ideologies, is the importance that one places on delayed gratification, but I’m typing on my phone right now…


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    War would be a lot easier if we chose to do away with pesky restrictions like the Geneva convention, but would you be proud to be on the side that dropped white phosphorus on an elementary school to win? Would you prefer that we start making up lies and false rumors about Trump and Co? Restraint is difficult; I understand that, put the resulting clean victory is the most lasting kind.















  • The Army can’t press assault charges on her behalf. She’s elected not to, which in this unique situation, is probably reasonable if she wants to continue having a normal life after this. Being an institution, and not an individual, the only real recourse the Army have would be to pursue a federal charges relating to misuse of the land and photography and such, but not doing so is the whole point of my initial post. In addition, even if they did, it would be a challenging case to prove that he was using it for campaign purposes given that he did not give a campaign speech or anything quite so flagrant. I’m not saying that anybody except for that poor staffer is completely in the right here, but it is probably the best case scenario: Trump and his team did something aggressively anti-patriotic, it was widely reported, and he has no way to possibly play the victim here.



  • Navy vet here. If I can offer an alternative interpretation: I can assure you that the Army is not actually afraid of retaliation (source: they have cluster bombs), I think it is a strategic move on their part to keep him from playing the victim. Trump is putting a lot of work every single day into ensuring that he loses this election. This is widely regarded as “tight”, and “super cool”, but he is also really good at playing the victim. Even if the Army press charges, and even if they got a conviction before the election somehow, it wouldn’t really change anything. Public perception is doing all the work that needs to be done about this, but if he successfully phrases this as a political attack so close to the election, it could throw a wrench in the roller coaster which is currently about to start going downhill really fast for him. I agree with you that this is not the correct outcome for such behavior, but I think it’s the best course of action currently available to ensure that he loses fair and square, and has no legitimate recourse after the votes are counted. He’s definitely going to dispute the results, but we need to make sure that he has no shadow of an actual, real, foothold to build a case of unfairness around.