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I saw Back to the Future 2 last night.
Ah, the distant future of 10 years ago!
The more I learn about our modern age, the more I start to feel that the premise of the Matrix isn’t such a bad deal at all. Normally, we should be there by now, the machine war ended decades ago.
They didn’t expect bigotry to basically hold us hostage for 100+ years.
Me too. My dream home would be inspired by Forbidden Planet
idk how rich you are But I will need to live this life in my dreams at night for the rest of my life
Yeah, that’s why it’s just my dream home. But if I could design and furnish a home that is what it would look like
One of my favourites.
Naomi Klein wrote about how older sci fi was so optimistic and how she thinks the current trend of depressing dystopian sci fi is bad for society, which was an interesting take I thought.
I agree.
you can see it in stories as simple as Star trek.
the after TNG it was about world building and character development.
then the reboot movie happened and it was about booms, zooms, and dooms after that.
the only thing that was remotely similar was season 2 of Picard. I haven’t watched 3 yet so IDK about it.
discovery is(and I mean this in the most platonic way), common TV garbage. I get the same feeling from it as I get from any other modern “syfy” show.
What about SNW?
The vibe I’m getting is “we’re eager and optimistic, but also, things get bad, the larger landscape is kinda bad and we are trying to hold straight faces?”
It feels very 2020s.
I haven’t seen SNW, from what I’ve seen(clips/reviews) it’s probably the most spirited successor to fit todays viewers.
I think she’s right. There is certainly a space in fiction for depressing dystopias, but personally, I think that it is also important to make space for hopeful stories about the future. Else it’s just too dark. Our news are depressing, our lives are depressing. Our fiction is depressing. If there isn’t much positive stuff to look forward to, then what’s the point? In the 1930s, 40s and 50s where war and crisis and recovery was on the menu, fiction tended to be more comforting and hopeful.
That’s why Disney’s Snow White was such a massive success in 1937. It gave people a break from their lives and allowed them to dream themselves away to a different world where everything was a bit simpler, where the downtrodden, yet hardworking and kind herione is rewarded for her efforts in the end. Many people may nor have had that happy ending themselves, but it must have given them some hope to watch a film about someone just like them who managed to pull through in the end and have her worth validated.
Herzog said ‘we are running out if images’ and that shit’s real.
Both are saying the fire of our imaginations is dead, and strongly implying that we have forgotten how to even hope.
And, like… We have. We have forgotten how to imagine better, to want better, to build a tomorrow, because tomorrow is on the far side on this raging river of blood that is rapidly flooding, and the time we could have built a bridge is so very long past.
And proposing we switch the terror from white to red for five seconds is a thing you’re not allowed to say.
as a kid i was so convinced, near the end of 90s i thought “maybe there are huge advancements made but they’re saving it for the year 2000 so it’ll be bombastic like people have expected.”
instead we got fucking segway lol
I would love to live in a world where every Hummer H2 was replaced by a Segway.
If there is anything about the 90s that I always found fun is just how everyone and everything anticipated the year 2000.
The night is 2000. I am walking around central london with my dad and his friends, drinking champagne from a bottle despite being underage. We are not near the place we are meant to be to see the fireworks display. The sky fills with coloured lights as giant fireworks are being let off and illuminating the entire heavens with one artificial colour at a time.
this reads like the beginning of neuromancer
high praise, thank you.
I might have to steal it for a novel.
Spoilers, it all starts going to shit in November when the Supreme Court selects Bush as president along party lines.
Kindly do not remind me of that…
PK Dick: Everything’s been nuked and there are feral psychics roaming the wasteland stealing people’s emotions.
Now recontextualize this using modern sci-fi that looks toward multiple centuries from now. Star Trek’s egalitarian socialist utopia would never come to pass and the most likely future is that of Frank Herbert’s Dune, where nearly 8,000 years from now we have a galactic feudal society where the ultra wealthy fight for control over limited resources while using religion to manipulate the poor into being their cannon fodder.
There were significant lows before the highs of the 23rd and 24th centuries of Star Trek. Incidentally the dark parts happen right around where we are now.
Foundation is also a sort of techno feudal society.
Parts of it. Towards the end it was more of an egalitarian society.
Humanity is exploring the deep corners of the universe to discover more resources to exploit.
Radiant indeed, but then Chernobyl happened and we got a lot more cautious about nuclear power. Also about trusting other countries. Well, we didn’t trust them before but that coverup didn’t help.
Three Mile Island was a near melt down years before Chernobyl.
And it’s a shame that we became scared of one of the greatest technologies we ever created.
Nuclear accidents have killed using the most extreme number 45,000 people. Directly meltdowns have killed less than 100. The middle ground estimates average out around 5,000, but let’s give the most extreme number possible for the sake of the argument. These numbers are including projected cancer rates.
Cars annually kill 1.19 million people in comparison.
Even if you were to add nuclear weapon usage to the numbers you’d still barely be close to these numbers. Plus every time there’s been an nuclear accident new technologies and safe guards are deployed. 40,000 of that estimated/projected death toll is from Chernobyl.
Nuclear energy was subsidized to make atom bombs seem less threatening.
If we’d spent as much on renewables and improving the power grid we’d have been off the fossil fuel addiction years ago.
Nuclear energy is both sustainable and safe. It was given a bad reputation by the fossil fuel industry to keep us buying oil.
Well here we are. We could have eliminated the vast majority of fossil fuel use by the 1960s when solar and wind energy were in their infancy.
The exact same people run both the fossil fuel industry and nuclear power.
They ‘compete’ the same way professional wrestlers do.
Yes I remember when it happened. It too eroded trust, but in our own country.
I read a ton of Andre Norton in my youth
And the heroes were scientists
I used to wonder if I would ever walk on the moon or Mars during my lifetime when I was a kid. I miss that
