• Wogi@lemmy.world
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      28 days ago

      I’m not saying it couldn’t be. I’m not convinced it isn’t either. But I will say I’ve known women who not only want to play that game, I’ve known women who want to tell you no and have you take what you want anyway, and they don’t always have that conversation with you before hand.

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        28 days ago

        they don’t always have that conversation with you before hand.

        Well, see, there’s the problem. If you’re into CNC, you need to have the conversation with someone, and you still need to establish safewords and shit, so that one person doesn’t think it’s CNC while the other person is experiencing sexual assault.

        Oh, and the women that are into CNC are not into just anyone doing that; they still want it to be ‘safe’. Or safely un-safe.

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          28 days ago

          these women don’t care about that. they are operating on a toddler level of wanting what they want and throwing a tantrum if they don’t get it.

          communication is not something they have developed yet.

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        27 days ago

        I’ve known women who want to tell you no and have you take what you want anyway

        …and I’ve met women who will say that because it sounds smart at the moment. They maybe genuinely wanting to play a little bit of a game within reason, but when speaking on the topic they will just casually forget about the nuance and insist on “no does not mean no, don’t give up boy” BS.

        They don’t realize that saying that in a group of reasonable polite people, assuming we all know what it really means (play just a little bit), it’s not entirely BS, but if there’s a desperate sociopath/stalker with no ability to respect limits properly there somewhere, then they might just take it as justification for rape.

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      28 days ago

      Nah I’ve experienced that myself. I spent years kicking myself for taking ‘no’ as ‘no’ from this one girl (we were teens) only to be told she wanted me to keep persisting. It took a long time for me to realize that she wasn’t worth it.