• Darkard@lemmy.worldEnglish
    775·
    3 个月前

    British food is still made either like the Luftwaffe is flying overhead or we are celebrating the fact that the war is over and we can cook with butter and oil again. There’s nothing in-between.

    • rmuk@feddit.ukEnglish
      3·
      3 个月前

      It’s weird because a comma or colon would have been fine, but a semicolon just feels wrong.

  • Denjin@feddit.uk
    633·
    3 个月前

    Thanks to successive waves of immigration in the 20th century from India, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, Africa, China and others we actually have a pretty diverse and vibrant food culture.

    Sadly a lot is still dominated by roast dinners and meat and two veg (one of those veg is always potato) but go to any major city and you’ll likely find excellent quality restaurants from pretty much every culture on earth.

      • Kushan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        81·
        3 个月前

        Fuck grandma, my roast dinners are an event. Got my roastie game en point, my yorkies are crispy and all the trimmings are standard. Plus the gravy, not to brag, will make you jizz your pants its that good.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          5·
          3 个月前

          Totally unrelated, but you made me question if the phrase is supposed to be “en pointe” like ballet or “on point.” after a little research, I’m guessing it’s “on point” but it seems like the etymology could be from ballet potentially, but it sounds like it isn’t likely. At the end of the day, it means exactly the same thing so it doesn’t really matter. I do find it funny you used “en point” instead of “en pointe” though. Halfway between the two I guess. Lol.

          • Kushan@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            3 个月前

            Honestly, getting it wrong in either sense might be the most British thing I’ve ever done.

        • supamanc@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 个月前

          See, gravy is so easy - meat juice, stock, bit of balsamic - I think how can you fuck this up? Then you get gravy litteraly in any commercial setting, and… urgh…

          • Kushan@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            3 个月前

            Honestly, beef wellington isn’t bad or anything but it’s definitely overrated. Don’t bother trying to make one, just find one at a restaurant and wonder what the fuss was about.

    • PoopBuffet@lemmy.world
      29·
      3 个月前

      Sounds like you have had some shit roast dinners. A good roast dinner is amazing. I love all the foreign foods we have access to now as well, but our traditional cooking gets a lot of shit when really it’s just bad cooks. Although we do also have stuff like jellied eels and mushy peas, so I’m not saying it’s all good…

      • anytimesoon@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        3 个月前

        I lived in the UK for a long time. My experience there a was that a good roast dinner is quite nice, but difficult to find. And when you do find one, it’s very expensive. This is something I found very odd. In most other countries, popular foods like this tend to be everywhere at a decent price.

        And like you said, the variety of food available in the UK is great. I used to be able to find some pretty obscure ingredients for Asian/Mexican/whatever cuisine in any normal supermarket.

      • Denjin@feddit.uk
        16·
        3 个月前

        I love a roast, it’s one of my favourite meals, but a shit roast is proper shit.

    • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.socialEnglish
      16·
      3 个月前

      I went eating at an Italian restaurant in, I don’t know, somewhere in the Highlands, and I haven’t been aware that it was run by Scottish people, including the kitchen. Our trip had many highlights and was really cool all in all, but that food has to be the deepest trench we had to pass through.

    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
      24·
      3 个月前

      Thanks to successive waves of immigration in the 20th century from India, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, Africa, China and others we actually have a pretty diverse and vibrant food culture.

      OK, but the idea is that it’s the indigenous food that represents the place in question. The Indian (subcontinent), Caribbean, African, Chinese, etc cuisines count as the food culture of those places, not british food culture.

      Don’t be like germans who are stupidly deluded enough to say “The döner was invented in germany” , when , no, it wasn’t invented in germany, it was invented in the ottoman empire. Also, Hans isn’t out back in the kebab shop busting his ass making that gigantic log of meat, it’s Ahmet. If you want to argue that derived foods that are based on local ingredients are part of the food culture of that place, that’s a more interesting debate that isn’t cut and dry; no one is selling kapsolon made with gouda cheese in İstanbul, nor are they making Tacos al Pastor with pork and pineapples.

      British food is good. Kinda simple, but good. Just not legendary. It’s like a more mid version of itallian food; relies too much on fat and carbs and meat to feel delicious and satisfying, instead of advanced techniques or “just right” spice blends.

      • Denjin@feddit.uk
        21·
        3 个月前

        My point is that those immigrant communities have brought their food and their culture with them and they’ve created fusion dishes that have created a unique food culture, one that has itself been exported back abroad. Like I’ve said elsewhere, most of the dishes people associate with Indian food were actually created in Indian restaurants in Britain.

        If only indigenous food counted, American cuisine is hominy and fry bread and Indian food is lentils.

        • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
          12·
          3 个月前

          Like I’ve said elsewhere, most of the dishes people associate with Indian food were actually created in Indian restaurants in Britain.

          the absolute arrogance of this statement. Disgusting.

          • Denjin@feddit.uk
            21·
            3 个月前

            Lol, do some research. Tikka Masala, Balti, Korma, Butter Chicken, poppadoms, chutneys, all invented in British Indian restaurants.

            I make no personal claim to any of them so how can it be arrogant at all.

            • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
              23·
              3 个月前

              Onto what, an Indian guy slightly changing the recipe for a curry leading the brits claiming that any curry served outside of india is based off the tikka masala? Get your own fucking cuisine to export you lazy gits.

              EDIT: Here’s his original bullshit :

              • Denjin@feddit.uk
                21·
                3 个月前

                If you’re not prepared to actually have a civil conversation, kindly fuck off you idiot.

                • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
                  12·
                  3 个月前

                  No. The train was an indian invention, the reason countries except for britain and india have trains is because they are adapting to the mass transit ideas that are indian.

              • Denjin@feddit.uk
                11·
                3 个月前

                Quite why you felt the need to attempt to call out my edit is beyond me, since I didn’t remove anything from the original, it’s just clear that critical thinking is somewhat beyond you and so in thought I’d save you the difficulty of doing even 30 seconds of reading and gave you some examples.

  • 🇨🇦 tunetardis@piefed.caEnglish
    283·
    3 个月前

    I once had a conversation with my boss who was well-travelled. He said the secret to Europe is to eat in the Catholic countries. If you must spend time within a Protestant country, look around for a Catholic enclave within it. Not only will the food be superior, but people will be falling over each other to make sure you are well fed.

    I looked at him incredulously. How can you say that? It’s such a sweeping generalization! And then I went to Europe…

    • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
      9·
      3 个月前

      I don’t know… my experience is that in Muslim communities they wont let you leave until your stomach explodes… then they offer you coffee and sweets to go with.

      • 🇨🇦 tunetardis@piefed.caEnglish
        3·
        3 个月前

        That’s good to know! Actually, now that I think of it, my wife and I visited the one and only mosque in our home town during a public event in a show of solidarity after it got vandalized. And I have to say, it was an absolute food fest in there!

  • RedFrank24@lemmy.world
    5·
    3 个月前

    Nah, British are kings of pastries, pies and cakes. Also don’t underestimate British cheeses. Cheddar cheese is the most popular cheese in the world, and where was it made? Britain. Then there’s stuff like Stilton, Wensleydale, and while Somerset Brie is really just a variant of Brie, it’s still really nice.

    That’s not even digging into the various curries that gained their current forms in Britain, mainly by British Indians, who are just as British as any other.

    • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world
      10·
      3 个月前

      Oh good lord. I looked it up:

      Stargazy pie (also starry-gazy pie, starry-gaze pie)[1] is a Cornish dish made of baked pilchards (sardines), along with eggs and potatoes, covered with a pastry crust. Although there are a few variations using other types of fish, the unique feature of stargazy pie is fish heads (and sometimes tails) protruding through the crust, so that they appear to be gazing to the stars.

  • sunbunman@sh.itjust.works
    171·
    3 个月前

    Say what you will about British food, but a full English breakfast is the best thing after night out drinking.

  • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
    341·
    3 个月前

    Sounds like somebody never tried a warm plate of Scraggledy Numps, or a bowl of Thumps in a Bodice, or even a hot cup of Singeshammy Longerjohns in Tabbernickywammelty sauce.

        • Poik@pawb.social
          2·
          3 个月前

          So called because the toast in military kitchens were nicknamed shingles, as in roofing tiles. Evocative of bad cooking, which I’m betting was rampant.

          Honestly, shit on a shingle (s.o.s. appropriately) is better than it sounds, even when not referred to under that name. But it’s definitely a comfort food. It’s not good for you, it’s just creamy, beefy, and starch. Inoffensive, cheap, and easy to make in bulk. (Kinda want some now.)

    • madjo@feddit.nl
      7·
      3 个月前

      I had a hot cup of Singeshammy Longerjohns in Tabbernickywammelty sauce once.

      Never again! I prefer mine cold.