They’ve already gotten to his Wikipedia page. His listed home town doesn’t actually exist…
Bielefeld? That’s a real place.
Ahaha… you got me. Now I know an in-joke next time I’m hanging with Germans.
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Dang! I didn’t think of him when this Charlie Kirk thing happened. That is the perfect Nazi Germany equivalent of the current administration.
There is more than just this equivalent. Sometimes I think we are caged in a repeating machine every 100 years. Enjoy the golden twenties as long as they are.
This has certainly never ever happened nowadays.
Sure would be a pain in the neck if it did
History doesn’t repeat, but it sure as hell rhymes.
Thank you very much for this important bit of information, especially regarding recent events and developments.
before i got in touch with a relativationist here (he seems german), i jus’ wanted to drop by, remarking that the font is too small and Ali Höhler – Ehrenmann!
Y’all remember when the U.S. Army bombed Pat Tillman and tried to make him out to be a hero?
Not calling the guy anything close to Weasel but, man, they really tried.
History doesn’t repeat itself. But it often rhymes.
I sometimes wonder if Hitler would have had any success at all if it weren’t for Goebbels. The man practically invented propaganda.
you seem to underestimate the grumpy germans.
Like how george floyd beat up and robbed women, then became a martyr and it was a cancellation to mention his crimes and that no one wanted him as a neighbor.
I guess on the bright side, shitty takes like this are an indication that Lemmy is growing.
Edgelords and furries are foundation species.
Doesn’t sound like he was a good man, but he was nonetheless murdered, in cold blood, by cops, on video.
Kirk was murdered by a lone gunman, who didn’t like his politics, on video.
Kinda doesn’t compare though? Kirk is a case of the government creating a martyr. And the government has far more power than the populace demonstrating, or even rioting.
Does that make sense? They were both bad men who were murdered in cold blood, on VERY public video. But the Trump admin can put real legs on “their” event, just as with Wessel.
Anyway, thanks for saying that, not being snarky. Be prepared to be murdered in the comments and likely banned. :(
I dont applaud anyone of them. police were held accountable for killing floyd, and court room justice i always value over comment section mob Justice.
He just wasnt a saint, he was a bad element in society. Also No one should be killed by police like he was.
Anyone whos holding women up and robbing and beating them should be on jail or a mandatory recovery center.
And kirk and floyd only have one thing in common…their killings were on video. Like kennedy…it just ups the attention and pain.
Like ray rice, he got suspended for 2 games for beating his wife. Then the video came out and people and were furious, it got upped and he got in more trouble…because it was on film.
On general we need less propaganda and more realism.
Ty fpr the civil back and forth.
Hey if not wanting someone as a neighbor deserved the death penalty, people like you would be on death row.
Also, tell the truth now, how badly do you wish you could have used the n-word in your comment about George Floyd?
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You got your downvotes, happy?
So content gf.
Is your trolling always this obvious?
Civil discussion above. Hes a piece for you , he broke into a womans apartment in 2007 and held her hostage while robbong her.
Just tell me your ok w that happening to your mom and ill reconsider him being a hero vs a recidivist criminal who was wrongly killed.
Do you think it’s possible that he got caught up in a system he couldn’t get out of? Can’t you imagine a scenario where you’re desperate and can’t find work because you’ve got a criminal record?
Things are always more complicated in real life. I’m not excusing anyone’s actions, but surely you can put part of the blame on the system he was forced into.
Sir, this is a comic about nazi propaganda.
An interesting thing the nazis did was portray jews, blacks, disabled, etc. as irredeemable criminals in order to justify extra-judicial punishment.
Nothing to be learned from here
why was he targeted and killed?
According to Wikipedia it was because a pub owner was trying to evict him due to non-payment of his room and he wouldn’t move out. He was also a SA commander in charge of a several squads.
Edit guess I was a bit late confirming the wiki article but I will leave it here so people can read the only source I checked.
I’m no expert on the subject and I wasn’t able to find a clear account. Keep in mind a lot of effort went into spinning the story so the real facts might be long gone.
I’ve read:
-It was a dispute over unpaid rent
-It was political between nazi’s and communists
-Wessel’s chick used to prostitute for his killer
Who knows, it could have been a bunch of things.
Honestly, it doesn’t really matter at the end of the day. His death wasn’t meaningful to the party he held allegiance to because he was important himself, just in how they could spin it so they could accumulate power.
it was meaningful, b/c Wessel was leading the party section in a red, proletarian neighboorhod in eastern Berlin.
This post made me realize that they portrayed him in the series Babylon Berlin, slyly renamed Horst Kessler.
Did Goebbels have the answer to autism though
Further controversy arose in the late 2010s over allegations that Asperger referred children to the Am Spiegelgrund children’s clinic in Vienna during the Nazi period. The clinic was responsible for murdering hundreds of disabled children deemed to be “unworthy of life” as part of the Third Reich’s child euthanasia programs (as part of the T4 Programme),
Wowee
No, that was Himmler.
Dark. I like it
Hey! Mengele helped!
Better quality version. Right click - open in new tab. From https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1nogt5x/horst_wessel_oc/
Thank you :)
“Now, people, rise up, and let the storm break loose!” - Joseph Goebbels memorializing Horst Wessel, 1932
“…And the warrior whispers back, I am the storm. Erika is the storm. We are the storm.” - Steven Miller memorializing Charlie Kirk, 2025
Steven Miller looks just like Goebbels too, those dead eyes scare me.
It’s as if God is doing a (history, colorized) meme on us, but the colors are just the black, white, and red of the Nazi swastika.
People love call backs, even nazis.
Maybe a cultural compulsion of misremembering and publically honoring the dead unconditionally isnt always good for society.
Yeah, I’ll take my bans now.
This is about propaganda, not culture.
Why would anyone ban you for that? It’s not an unpopular opinion or mean.
Did you read it? It wasn’t a “cultural compulsion”. It was a deliberate campaign to turn the memory of him into a complete fabrication and a fascist tool.
And why did that propaganda campaign work? What did it operate on?
Human nature?
People like heroes, alive or dead. Them being dead is just beneficial to those rewriting their history.
Useful because of how we treat the dead and their memory.
Useful because they can’t argue, disprove, or otherwise disrupt the use of their person as a “perfect” hero of the movement.
Okay, yeah, the culture it starts in is never culpable for any vulnerabilities it may or may not have to Nazism.
There was nothing we could’ve done and there’s nothing we can do except pure violence. No preventative measures for next time. It could have been no other way.
Outrage, divisive politics, creating an enemy strawman…
