Oh it’s even worse than that: they hate live action Ariel because she’s “ugly”
sex+race racism is horrifically nasty, yet more common and more “accepted” in my experience.
Also, I will leave this here:
Fortunately, it’s just hypothetical, that live action doesn’t actually exist…
I’m sorry but if you think that Zuko is not a hero, you must have sopped watching Avatar after the third episode.
I think this is comparing it directly to the movie that doesn’t exist where he’s 100% not a hero
I have no knowledge about a thing which doesn’t exist. I can’t even see the second row of images.
Weird, isn’t it?
I mean, I’ve watched it through many times, but tha’s not really the point here. They switched up the appearance of the whole Fire Nation demographic because… Well…
do you remember the original animated “Lion King”?
all the voice actors for the Hyenas were black stereotypes…
I’ll give you that for Shenzi (Whoopi Goldberg), but that’s a big stretch for Banzai (Cheech Marin) and Ed (Jim Cummings). I don’t think Marin can play anything other than a mexican stereotype, and Ed was just a moron.
they originally wanted Cheech and Chong… they were not going for the educated but poor stereotypes here
As to your picture, everyone hated that.
Would they today, though?
I feel like there would be conservative ‘backlash against backlash’ over racebending cast.
I’m sure I’m missing something super obvious, but can you explain the image?
Compare the skin tones of the actors they cast for the live action compared to the original anime
The big panel is a bit clearer:
Basically the original heroes were vaguely Tibetan (Aang) or dark-skinned Inuit, but for the movie (that doesn’t exist) they quite consistently color coded the good guys as white and the bad guys as darker skinned; the total opposite.
Though the director is South Asian himself, so I guess in a way he did that to increase representation, messed-up as that sounds.
Colorism, the favoritism towards lighter skinned people against darker skinned people, has a long history in India, and is still very much a problem today.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200818-colourism-in-india-the-people-fighting-light-skin-bias
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8932098/
https://www.stearthinktank.com/post/colorism-in-indian-society
You’ll be surprised how many Indians hate other Indians. Not saying M Night does though. I mean just look at how many Indians are in the Trump admin. They get successful and then abandon their roots. Btw I’m Indian.
Oh, I’m from the North of England. I know haha
I don’t think it’s an Indian hating Indian thing. I think some (often better off) Indians and their families have a propensity to lick the boots of certain evil white people because its what worked out for them during the colonial era.
There’s always going to be people that side with the bad guys and in India’s case, for the past few centuries, people that sided with the bad guys often attained wealth and luxury beyond what other Indians had. Even if those bad guys were committing a few genocides along the way.
It sucks. Its a very “fuck you, got mine” attitude but I can’t think anything more American / Western than that.
I got that part. The part that was confusing me was Aang’s “hero” font being a different color than the other two. I think I’m reading too much into it, maybe
I think is just because of the nation, Katara and Soka water tribe = blue, Zuko fire = red and Aaang air = yellow(air nation use yellow robes)
Oh, duh! I’m such a dumbass lol
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What Zero said, or maybe it’s just because Aang is the main protaganist/Chosen One.
I’m such a dumbass, I didn’t even think of that. I’ve seen it. One of my favorites
There were plenty of people mad about most of those.
How dare they cast the role of Caribbean princess as a young black girl? /s
(I know the stories are Danish or something but Disney put these films in tropical island settings)
it’s even worse than that cos the original text never said ariel’s human version race, they just assumed it lol.
and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it’s a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?
To be fair, skin tone usually develops due to exposure to the sun. If anything, mermaids probably are tanned on top (backs) and pale on their stomachs. Like great whites
I don’t know if anyone outside Australia knows Fern Gully… But anyway, years ago, watching that movie with friends I casually suggested that possibly fairies in Australia would more likely be indigenous looking than white, and got told off for “making everything political”. And by migrant friends.
One of whom used to get quite offended at any implication that they were anything other than Australian.
it’s funny, i visited there once with a friend, we also discussed fairies in that area. i wonder what is the cause of such a seeming coincidence.
People definitely made fun of Johnny Depp as a native American.
Made fun of, yes, but there was no outrage, calls for boycotts, etc.
Who would do it? The crazy, easily offended, superficial and impulsive Native Americans? There’s only one tribe that gets fuming mad and violent about this kind of ridiculous shit…
I remember both of those, in addition to the ridicule. Just wasn’t as loud.
he’s like 1/8 or 1/16 native, so despite being far removed from indigenous people and culture white americans have a tendency to see any claim to cultural heritage as valid, so the outrage wasn’t as big as normal
If copyright didn’t last forever, anyone could make a little mermaid movie with the main character as whatever race they prefer. Its been 35 years, time to release this into the public domain.
The copyright does not apply to the Andersen original anymore. You just have to make your own twist on the story.
The Little Mermaid was H. C. Andersen, not the brothers Grimm
There was no misremembering of information in Ba Sing Se!
I want a JAWS style retelling of the Little Mermaid. Then a porn parody version, because I want what I want
The Little Mermaid - The Eroge (I have a feeling it already exists)
I seem to recall some anger about the Ancient One casting.
That’s because woman
Tilda Swinton has always, and will forever, exceed gender limitations.
Still fuckin’ hot in a Tilda Swinton kind of way though.
I’m not into translucent people
Me looking at Idris Elba as Heimdall: damn good, give me more
Idris is my man-crush. I wanted him to be Bond
Love him in any roles where he uses his regular British accent. Let’s not make him do Baltimore accent ever again. In fact, probably best we forget that happened l tbh
I don’t really care about this though tbf, most comic book heroes have multiple incarnations often with gender-swap and different ethnic groups, Ariel on the other hand is a character from a traditional European fairy tale. It bothers me more to see Tom Cruise as “the last samurai” than some random modern comic book character with slightly off skin color.
Tom Cruise wasn’t the last samurai in that film, he witnessed the last samurai, Katsumoto, played by Ken Watanabe.
It’s confusing because Tom Cruise is on all the posters.
The one’s labeled tibetan and romani, what are those? I’m familiar with the rest
Both from marvel, the wise one from dr. Strange and the scarlet witch.
Ancient One and Scarlet Witch
race is a social construct
Marvel were big on Romani character = witch in the 70s and 80s.
Can we please stop calling them “African American??” Nobody likes that. Not even black people like saying or being called “African American,” for several reasons.
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I am white but I sit on a board of directors for a majority-black arts org, the founder who is a black woman uses the term African-American.
Not wanting to speak for anyone, but it’s probably a mix of your age, social class, background, culture and context that may affect that choice.
Sure, but reason still stands that not all black people identify with Africa, and also not all black people are American.
Halle Bailey is from Altanta, though, the demonym is accurate.
We do need some way to qualify them. They’re not just regular Americans, like us, due to the excess of pigment. Perhaps, Black-American? Negro-American?
Black. They call themselves black. And everyone else is safe to call them black too.
Yeah, i know - im joking. Separately - wtf do you mean “they”?
Because if I was black I would’ve said “we.”
Probably shouldn’t be speaking for them then…
I do this thing called listening. I’m simply quoting what other black people have said.
So, you’ve got a black friend, you say?
If they didn’t have double standards then they wouldn’t have them at all
Nah i’m upset at all of em, either cast the actual race of the character or you are too cheap to put in the effort.
I don’t know how to break this to you, but mermaids don’t exist.
It’s a damn movie. Cast whoever is gonna play the character best. I don’t care of brothers and sisters were different or if men played women or women player men.
But I’m used to the theater were roles don’t have such a large talent pool.
More so, stop casting people just for their name.
If the character’s ethnicity isn’t directly relevant to the story or its message, why does it matter? People of all kinds of heritage live just about anywhere in the world, so a character being from some country doesn’t have to determine their ethnicity.
